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Old November 9 2013, 09:04 PM   #211
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Re: Season FIVE OFFICIAL TNG Blu-Ray Discussion Thread

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It's actually not four minutes or even three. The total is 2:20. There's about half a minute right at the start of "The First Duty" which is probably the most obvious and problematic material to upscale because it's a brightly-lit bridge scene... and then there are less than two minutes upconverted right in the middle of "Power Play" spread over about five or so shots. The longest portion lasts about a minute. It's when the possessed O'Brien first starts to harass Keiko. The rest are fairly quick shots that come and go before that. The good thing about the Ten Forward scenes are that they are lit low-key and are less obvious.
OK, 2:20 is a little easier to swallow. And it's good that for The First Duty, it's all in the beginning so it's out of the way immediately.

When I watch the episodes that have SD footage, I get taken out of the episode because I'm thinking "it's coming up soon."

In cases like this, I'd be in favor of using alternate takes if they exist. It beats the alternative.
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Old November 9 2013, 09:30 PM   #212
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Why not? There's already a precedent for disc replacement. They even replaced a disc from season 1 that had missing VFX even though it didn't have the audio errors that caused the replacement in the first place.
The Season 1 disc replacement program was due to the egregious errors made across multiple episodes with the audio encoding. IMO, the VFX fixes were simply a "bonus" because they had the opportunity to do so with the new discs anyway.

Two or three minutes of footage which the vast majority of patrons will likely not kick up any real fuss about will not be incentive for CBS to reduce profits by producing a new run of discs for free.
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Old November 10 2013, 02:05 AM   #213
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It's actually not four minutes or even three. The total is 2:20. There's about half a minute right at the start of "The First Duty" which is probably the most obvious and problematic material to upscale because it's a brightly-lit bridge scene... and then there are less than two minutes upconverted right in the middle of "Power Play" spread over about five or so shots. The longest portion lasts about a minute. It's when the possessed O'Brien first starts to harass Keiko. The rest are fairly quick shots that come and go before that. The good thing about the Ten Forward scenes are that they are lit low-key and are less obvious.
OK, 2:20 is a little easier to swallow. And it's good that for The First Duty, it's all in the beginning so it's out of the way immediately.

When I watch the episodes that have SD footage, I get taken out of the episode because I'm thinking "it's coming up soon."

In cases like this, I'd be in favor of using alternate takes if they exist. It beats the alternative.
That's a matter of opinion. Personally, I'd rather they used the takes the director intended, rather than use sub-standard ones that belong on the cutting room floor.
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Old November 10 2013, 03:25 AM   #214
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That's a matter of opinion. Personally, I'd rather they used the takes the director intended, rather than use sub-standard ones that belong on the cutting room floor.
Of course, this has already occurred in a select few instances (namely "Q Who?" and "The Best of Both Worlds, Part II"). I consider myself a fairly perceptive fan and I was totally fooled. The only thing I noticed was that in BOBW II the musical cue began a bit too early (which was later corrected on S4).
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Old November 10 2013, 04:53 AM   #215
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Curious, what different take was used for "Q Who?" I know the extended version of "The Measure of a Man" used alternate takes on some bits (likely because that's what the early VHS cut used before the final cut settled with which takes).
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Old November 10 2013, 07:44 AM   #216
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Curious, what different take was used for "Q Who?"
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Old November 10 2013, 08:58 AM   #217
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The alternate takes in season 2, wasn't that likely a result of HTV's automated conforming software?
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Old November 10 2013, 11:02 AM   #218
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Wow, no wonder I couldn't notice. Pretty easy to pull off.
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Old November 10 2013, 04:43 PM   #219
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I wonder if they'll use the same shot. There isn't a lot of phaser strip in view on the original shot.
Sadly not.

does the new shot look better or worse? The old (despite "erroneous") shot was really nice, dramatic violent phaser discharges.
Are you telling they just took some other phaser shot from BOBW andf replaced it...? If so....omg...WHYYYY
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Old November 10 2013, 04:49 PM   #220
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Re: Season FIVE OFFICIAL TNG Blu-Ray Discussion Thread

Word over on the Blu-ray.com forums is that there will be no Target deal for S5 and Unification like there have been for seasons 3 and 4.
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Old November 10 2013, 05:44 PM   #221
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Here we go folks, Season 5 Review: http://trekcore.com/blog/2013/11/rev...son-5-blu-ray/

Hopefully this clears up and answers all your questions!
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Old November 10 2013, 05:51 PM   #222
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Here we go folks, Season 5 Review: http://trekcore.com/blog/2013/11/rev...son-5-blu-ray/

Hopefully this clears up and answers all your questions!

THANKS!

..now hurrying up to read it
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Awesome review. I'm very excited to see the return to form on the bonus material. I've asked for more archival stuff, footage from shows like ET, and it looks like I'm going to get it. That's great to hear.
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Old November 10 2013, 05:59 PM   #224
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Here we go folks, Season 5 Review: http://trekcore.com/blog/2013/11/rev...son-5-blu-ray/

Hopefully this clears up and answers all your questions!
Good Lord!! Thanks a million.
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Old November 10 2013, 08:43 PM   #225
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Word over on the Blu-ray.com forums is that there will be no Target deal for S5 and Unification like there have been for seasons 3 and 4.
Well that sucks. But then the only way to take advantage of that was to go to Target at 8AM.
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