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Old November 7 2013, 02:06 AM   #61
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Re: What order should the TV series and movies be watched in?

The order of which they aired.
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Old November 7 2013, 02:10 AM   #62
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Re: What order should the TV series and movies be watched in?

php111 wrote: View Post
bbjeg wrote: View Post
If you want to get real technical, check this page out.
This is the route I'm taking.
That's a horrible way to watch especially as it starts with Enterprise. If you absolutely insist on watching TNG, DS9 and VOY concurrently then you're better of watching a season of each at a time instead of trying to do them all at once. That order tries to follow stardates which are never consistent and appeared less and less in later episodes. Also it lists Insurrection as taking place after DS9 which is contradicted by dialogue in the movie. Based on release date it probably takes place in the middle of season 7.
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Old November 7 2013, 02:27 AM   #63
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Re: What order should the TV series and movies be watched in?

^The website focuses on more than just Stardates due to inconsistencies.
We did our best to account for as much as possible, including stardate, time travel, in-universe consistency, airdate, and in some cases even production number.
They explain the process in detail on the site. I also agreed with watching Enterprise after Nemesis in an earlier post.
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Old November 7 2013, 02:40 AM   #64
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Thank you all for the help!!

I would like to ask in order to be really really percised, should I put the movies and TV shows by release date and original airdate for each and every episode? Below is an example I am trying to ask if its the right way to do this by release order.

Lets take two TNG episodes and a movie of Star Trek V: The Final Frontier which was released on 6/9/1989. TNG episodes 18, and 19 of Season 2.

Up the Long Ladder episode 18 was released on 5/22/1989
Manhunt episode 19 was released on 6/19/1989

Alright, Movie: The Final Frontier was released before TNG S2E19, so the release order would be:

Up the Long Ladder
Movie: The Final Frontier
Manhunt
Would that be the right way to put them in order by release date?
So, this way I posted earlier will or will not work?
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Old November 7 2013, 03:00 AM   #65
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Re: What order should the TV series and movies be watched in?

I'm simply confused at this point. Just grab something and watch it. Outside of DS9, order really isn't that important.
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Old November 7 2013, 03:21 AM   #66
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php111 wrote: View Post
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If you want to get real technical, check this page out.
This is the route I'm taking.
That's a great way to go. I'm going to try it myself someday when I can set aside 700 hours. And I agree with what GameOn said about Insurrection. I'd find the DS9 episode that referenced the Son'a and put the movie sometime before that.
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Old November 7 2013, 04:40 AM   #67
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Re: What order should the TV series and movies be watched in?

It's interesting to see where the shows fit chronologically but as a watch order its kind of a mess especially for first time viewers.
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So, this way I posted earlier will or will not work?
There's no advantage to watching Star Trek 5 or Star Trek 6 between episodes of TNG as they are set in different centuries.
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Old November 7 2013, 04:55 PM   #68
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Re: What order should the TV series and movies be watched in?

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It's interesting to see where the shows fit chronologically...
Check out the video in my signature for a post TOS chronological mashup.
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Old November 7 2013, 07:20 PM   #69
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Re: What order should the TV series and movies be watched in?

php111 wrote: View Post
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If you want to get real technical, check this page out.
http://thestartrekchronologyproject....ek_19.html?m=1

This is the route I'm taking.


GameOn wrote: View Post
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If you want to get real technical, check this page out.
This is the route I'm taking.
That's a horrible way to watch especially as it starts with Enterprise.
It's a chronological list...

This project was born with one simple thought: Wouldn’t it be cool to watch the entire live-action Star Trek canon in chronological order as the events occur within the Star Trek Universe?
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That order tries to follow stardates which are never consistent and appeared less and less in later episodes.
No...

- Due to this, it made much more sense to us to order these episdoes by their production number, rather than by airdates (which causes a lot of inconsistencies) or stardates (which were made up somewhat randomly at this point). Presenting them in the order they were produced made the most sense chronologically

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Also it lists Insurrection as taking place after DS9 which is contradicted by dialogue in the movie. Based on release date it probably takes place in the middle of season 7.
They explain...

- “Star Trek: Insurrection”

- This one was somewhat maddening. It has no apparent stardate, and a number of lines and/or situations that suggest contradictory placements within the timeline.

- For one thing, Worf is present and still a Starfleet officer, which would suggest these events take place prior to DS9: “What You Leave Behind”. Memory-Alpha.org even suggests that “Insurrection” takes place during the events of DS9: “It’s Only a Paper Moon” due to Worf’s absence from that episode.

- However, there are also a number of lines within the movie that seem to indicate that the Dominion War has just ended. This of course, causes some confusion regarding Worf’s status at this time.

- Technically, we believe the events of this film take place during DS9: "What You Leave Behind", specifically, after the final battle with the Dominion, but before the signing of the peace treaty. For all we know, there could have been weeks in between those two scenes. However, since it would be silly to stop wathing "What You Leave Behind" half way through to watch "Insurrection", we placed "Insurrection" dircectly afterward, similarly to how we placed "These Are the Voyages..." directly after "The Pegasus".

- It’s still unsettling that this was not made more clear somwehere in thre film, but thats our best guess, and it seems to work viewing it that way, for the most part.
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Old November 8 2013, 12:55 AM   #70
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Re: What order should the TV series and movies be watched in?

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It's a chronological list...
As I already said in a previous comment it's an interesting to see where the shows fit chronologically but it's pretty messy as a watch list.

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No...
The section you quoted was to do with TOS. I'm talking about later episode of DS9 and VOY which didn't have stardates half the time and much of their ordering it based on conjecture and story arcs.

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Also it lists Insurrection as taking place after DS9 which is contradicted by dialogue in the movie. Based on release date it probably takes place in the middle of season 7.
They explain...
I still think they're wrong.

PICARD: I'm going to ask Worf to delay his return to DS9 so he can join us.

PICARD: I don't know how they do it on Deep Space 9, but on the Enterprise, we still report for duty on time.

They seem to put a lot of importance on the line about Dominion negotiations but that doesn't mean it takes place at the end of the war. In "Statistical Probabilities" the Federation is in negotations with the Dominion and "In the Pale Moonlight" states that the Federation has put out peace feelers.

EDIT:
A few more things that come to mind. The Federation is so desperate for allies that they accept a species that has only had warp drive for a year. To me this suggests that the Romulans may not have even entered the war yet.

The following line would suggest that the movie takes place in the middle of season 7.
RU'AFO: The Federation is old. In the past twenty-four months, they've been challenged by every major power in the Quadrant. The Borg, the Cardassians, the Dominion.

The following line would suggest that the Dominion war is still going on at the time of the movie.
PICARD: But these are perilous times for the Federation. I can't abandon it to people who would threaten everything that I've spent my lifetime defending.

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Old November 8 2013, 01:09 AM   #71
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A BIG THANK YOU to everyone who took their time to reply to this thread and helped me and gave me all and lots and lots of info!
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Old November 8 2013, 08:47 AM   #72
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Re: What order should the TV series and movies be watched in?

I agree with GameOn. I've always felt that Insurrection was set during the last season of DS9. Just based on dialogue I never got the impression that the Dominion War was over.
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Old November 8 2013, 09:20 AM   #73
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I have watched them in the stardate chronilogical order, so you would watch the whole of Enterprise, TOS, TOS Movies, TNG and DS9 as there are some crossover episodes, TNG: Generations and First Contact, Voyager mixed with Insurrection and finally Nemesis
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^Don't forget Voyager mixes with DS9 after season 3.
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Old November 8 2013, 06:35 PM   #75
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I might be too late for this to be of any relevance to the OP, but I sat down and created what I'm calling the 'Ultimate Guides' for TOS, TNG, DS9, and VOY (I'm still working on one for ENT), and thought I'd share them here.

The Ultimate Star Trek Viewing Guide
TOS Season 1:
Where No Man Has Gone Before (Season/Series Premiere)
Mudd’s Women
The Corbomite Maneuver
Charlie X
The Enemy Within
The Naked Time
Balance of Terror
The Squire of Gothos
What are Little Girls Made Of?
Miri
Dagger of the Mind
The Conscience of the King
The Galileo Seven
Court Martial
The Menagerie, Part 1
The Menagerie, Part 2
Catspaw
Shore Leave
Arena
The Alternative Factor
Tomorrow is Yesterday
Space Seed
The Return of the Archons
A Taste of Armageddon
The Devil in the Dark
Errand of Mercy (Season Finale)

TOS Season 2:
The Gamesters of Triskelion (Season Premiere)
Metamorphosis
The City on the Edge of Forever
Operation – Annihilate!
Mirror, Mirror
Amok Time
This Side of Paradise
The Changeling
Who Mourns for Adonais?
The Deadly Years
Friday’s Child
Wolf in the Fold
Obsession
The Apple
Journey to Babel
Bread and Circuses
The Doomsday Machine
A Private Little War
A Piece of the Action
The Immunity Syndrome
Elaan of Troyus
Patterns of Force
Spectre of the Gun
The Omega Glory
I, Mudd
The Trouble with Tribbles (Season Finale)

TOS Season 3:
Assignment: Earth (Season Premiere)
By Any Other Name
The Ultimate Computer
Return to Tomorrow
The Paradise Syndrome
Day of the Dove
And the Children Shall Lead
The Enterprise Incident
The Empath
The Mark of Gideon
Spock’s Brain
For the World is Hollow, and I Have Touched the Sky
For is There in No Truth Beauty?
The Tholian Web
That Which Survives
Wink of an Eye
Whom Gods Destroy
The Lights of Zetar
Let That Be Your Last Battlefield
Plato’s Stepchildren
The Cloudminders
The Way to Eden
Requiem for Methuselah
The Savage Curtain
Turnabout Intruder
All Our Yesterdays (Season/Series Finale)

TNG Season 1:

Encounter at Farpoint (Season/Series Premiere)
The Naked Now
Code of Honor
Haven
Where No One Has Gone Before
The Last Outpost
Lonely Among Us
Justice
The Battle
Hide and Q
Too Short a Season
The Big Goodbye
Datalore
Angel One
11001001
Home Soil
When the Bough Breaks
Coming of Age
Heart of Glory
The Arsenal of Freedom
Symbiosis
Skin of Evil (Season Finale)

TNG Season 2:

We’ll Always Have Paris (Season Premiere)
Conspiracy
The Neutral Zone
The Child
Where Silence Has Lease
Elementary, Dear Data
The Outrageous Okona
The Schizoid Man
Loud as a Whisper
Unnatural Selection
A Matter of Honor
The Measure of a Man
The Dauphin
Contagion
The Royale
Time Squared
The Icarus Factor
Pen Pals
Q Who?
Samaritan Snare
Up the Long Ladder
Manhunt
The Emissary
Peak Performance
Shades of Grey (Season Finale)

TNG Season 3:

The Survivors
Who Watches the Watchers?
The Bonding
Booby Trap
The Enemy
The Price
The Vengeance Factor
The Defector
The Hunted
The High Ground
Deja Q
A Matter of Perspective
Yesterday’s Enterprise
The Offspring
Sins of the Father
Allegiance
Captain’s Holiday
Tin Man
Hollow Pursuits
The Most Toys
Sarek
Ménage a Troi
Transfigurations
The Best of Both Worlds, Part 1 (Season Finale)

TNG Season 4:
The Best of Both Worlds, Part 2 (Season Premiere)
Family
Suddenly Human
Brothers
Remember Me
Legacy
Reunion
Future Imperfect
Final Mission
The Loss
Data’s Day
The Wounded
Devil’s Due
Clues
First Contact
Galaxy’s Child
Night Terrors
Identity Crisis
The Nth Degree
Qpid
The Drumhead
Half a Life
The Host
The Mind’s Eye
In Theory
Redemption, Part 1 (Season Finale)

TNG Season 5:

Redemption, Part 2 (Season Premiere)
Darmok
Ensign Ro
Silicon Avatar
Disaster
The Game
Unification, Part 1
Unification, Part 2
A Matter of Time
New Ground
Hero Worship
Violations
The Masterpiece Society
Conundrum
Power Play
Ethics
The Outcast
Cause and Effect
The First Duty
Cost of Living
The Perfect Mate
Imaginary Friend
I, Borg
The Next Phase
The Inner Light
Time’s Arrow, Part 1 (Season Finale)

TNG Season 6/DS9 Season 1:

Time’s Arrow, Part 2 (TNG S6 Season Premiere)
Realm of Fear (TNG S6)
Man of the People (TNG S6)
Relics (TNG SG)
Schisms (TNG S6)
True Q (TNG S6)
Rascals (TNG S6)
A Fistful of Datas (TNG S6)
The Quality of Life (TNG S6)
Chain of Command, Part 1 (TNG S6)
Chain of Command, Part 2 (TNG S6)
Emissary (DS9 Series/Season 1 Premiere)
Past Prologue (DS9 S1)

A Man Alone (DS9 S1)
Babel (DS9 S1)
Ship in a Bottle (TNG S6)
Captive Pursuit (DS9 S1)
Aquiel (TNG S6)
Q-Less (DS9 S1)
Face of the Enemy (TNG S6)
The Passenger (DS9 S1)
Tapestry (TNG S6)
Move Along Home (DS9 S1)
Birthright, Part 1 (TNG S6)
Birthright, Part 2 (TNG S6)
The Nagus (DS9 S1)
Vortex (DS9 S1)

Starship Mine (TNG S6)
Lessons (TNG S6)
Battle Lines (DS9 S1)
The Storyteller (DS9 S1)

The Chase (TNG SG6)
Progress (DS9 S1)
Frame of Mind (TNG S6)
The Forsaken (DS9 S1)
Suspicions (TNG S6)
Dax (DS9 S1)
Rightful Heir (TNG S6)
Dramatis Personae (DS9 S1)
Second Chances (TNG S6)
Duet (DS9 S1)
Timescape (TNG S6)
In the Hands of the Prophets (DS9 Season 1 Finale)
Descent, Part 1 (TNG Season 6 Finale)

TNG Season 7/DS9 Season 2:

Descent, Part 2 (TNG Season 7 Premiere)
The Homecoming (DS9 Season 2 Premiere)
The Circle (DS9 S2)
The Siege (DS9 S2)
Liaisons (TNG S7)
Gambit, Part 1 (TNG S7)
Gambit, Part 2 (TNG S7)
Cardassians (DS9 S2)
Interface (TNG S7)
Invasive Procedures (DS9 S2)
Phantasms (TNG S7)
Melora (DS9 S2)
Dark Page (TNG S7)
Rules of Acquisition (DS9 S2)
Attached (TNG S7)
Necessary Evil (DS9 S2)
Force of Nature (TNG S7)
Second Sight (DS9 S2)
Parallels (TNG S7)
Sanctuary (DS9 S2)
Inheritance (TNG S7)
Rivals (DS9 S2)
Homeward (TNG S7)
The Alternate (DS9 S2)
The Pegasus (TNG S7)
Armageddon Game (DS9 S2)
Sub Rosa (TNG S6)
Paradise (DS9 S2)
Lower Decks (TNG S7)
Whispers (DS9 S2)
Thine Own Self (TNG S7)
Shadowplay (DS9 S2)
Masks (TNG S7)
Playing God (DS9 S2)
Eye of the Beholder (DS9 S7)
Profit and Loss (DS9 S2)
Genesis (TNG S7)
Blood Oath (DS9 S2)
Journey’s End (TNG S7)
The Maquis, Part 1 (DS9 S2)
The Maquis, Part 2 (DS9 S2)
Firstborn (TNG S7)
Bloodlines (TNG S7)
The Wire (DS9 S2)
Emergence (TNG S7)
Crossover (DS9 S2)
The Collaborator (DS9 S2)
Preemptive Strike (TNG S7)
Tribunal (DS9 S2)
All Good Things (TNG Season 7/Series Finale)
The Jem’Hadar (DS9 Season 2 Finale)

DS9 Season 3:

The Search, Part 1 (Season Premiere)
The Search, Part 2
The House of Quark
Equilibrium
Second Skin
The Abandoned
Civil Defense
Meridian
Defiant
Fascination
Past Tense, Part 1
Past Tense, Part 2
Life Support
Heart of Stone
Destiny
Prophet Motive
Visionary
Distant Voices
Through the Looking Glass
Improbable Cause
The Die is Cast
Explorers
Family Business
Shakaar
Facets
The Adversary (Season Finale)

DS9 Season 4:

The Way of the Warrior (Season Premiere)
The Visitor
Hippocratic Oath
Indiscretion
Homefront
Paradise Lost
Rejoined
Starship Down
Little Green Men
The Sword of Kahless
Our Man Bashir
Crossfire
Return to Grace
Sons of Mogh
Bar Association
Accession
Rules of Engagement
Hard Time
Shattered Mirror
The Muse
For the Cause
To the Death
The Quickening
Body Parts
Broken Link (Season Finale)

DS9 Season 5:

Apocalypse Rising (Season Premiere)
The Ship
Looking for par’Mach in All the Wrong Places
Nor the Battle to the Strong
Trials and Tribble-ations
The Assignment
Let He Who is Without Sin
Things Past
The Ascent
Rapture
The Darkness and the Light
The Begotten
For the Uniform
In Purgatory’s Shadow
By Inferno’s Light
Doctor Bashir, I Presume
A Simple Investigation
Business as Usual
Ties of Blood and Water
Ferengi Love Songs
Soldiers of the Empire
Children of Time
Blaze of Glory
Empok Nor
In the Cards
Call to Arms (Season Finale)

DS9 Season 6:

A Time to Stand (Season Premiere)
Rocks and Shoals
Sons and Daughters
Behind the Lines
Favor the Bold
Sacrifice of Angels
You are Cordially Invited
Resurrection
Statistical Probabilities
The Magnificent Ferengi
Waltz
Who Mourns for Morn?
One Little Ship
Far Beyond the Stars
Honor Among Thieves
Change of Heart
Wrongs Darker Than Death or Night
Inquisition
In the Pale Moonlight
His Way
The Reckoning
Valiant
Profit and Lace
Time’s Orphan
The Sound of Her Voice
Tears of the Prophets (Season Finale)

DS9 Season 7:

Image in the Sand (Season Premiere)
Shadows and Symbols
Afterimage
Take Me Out to the Holosuite
Chrysalis
Treachery, Faith, and the Great River
Once More Unto the Breach
The Siege of AR-558
Covenant
It’s Only a Paper Moon
Prodigal Daughter
The Emperor’s New Cloak
Field of Fire
Chimera
Inter Arma Enim Silent Leges
Badda-Bing, Badda-Bang
Penumbra
‘Til Death Do Us Part
Strange Bedfellows
The Changing Face of Evil
When It Rains…
Tacking into the Wind
Extreme Measures
The Dogs of War
What You Leave Behind (Season/Series Finale)

VOY Season 1:

Caretaker (Season/Series Premiere)
Parallax
Time and Again
Phage
The Cloud
Eye of the Needle
Ex Post Facto
Emanations
Prime Factors
State of Flux
Heroes and Demons
Cathexis
Faces
Jetrel
Learning Curve
Projections
Elogium
Twisted
The ‘37s (Season Finale)

VOY Season 2:

Initiations (Season Premiere)
Non-Sequitur
Partuition
Persistence of Vision
Tattoo
Cold Fire
Maneuvers
Resistance
Prototype
Death Wish
Alliances
Threshold
Meld
Dreadnought
Lifesigns
Investigations
Deadlock
Innocence
The Thaw
Tuvix
Resolutions
Basics, Part 1 (Season Finale)

VOY Season 3:

Basics, Part 2 (Season Premiere)
Sacred Ground
False Profits
Flashback
The Chute
Remember
The Swarm
Future’s End, Part 1
Future’s End, Part 2
Warlord
The Q and the Grey
Macrocosm
Fair Trade
Alter Ego
Coda
Blood Fever
Unity
Rise
Darkling
Favorite Son
Before and After
Real Life
Distant Origin
Displaced
Worst Case Scenario
Scorpion, Part 1 (Season Finale)

VOY Season 4:

Scorpion, Part 2 (Season Premiere)
The Gift
Nemesis
Day of Honor
Revulsion
The Raven
Scientific Method
Year of Hell, Parts 1 and 2
Random Thoughts
Concerning Flight
Message in a Bottle
Waking Moments
Hunters
Prey
Retrospect
The Killing Game, Parts 1 and 2
Vis a Vis
The Omega Directive
Unforgettable
Living Witness
Demon
One
Hope and Fear (Season Finale)

VOY Season 5:

Night (Season Premiere)
Drone
Extreme Risk
In the Flesh
Once Upon a Time
Nothing Human
Timeless
Infinite Regress
Thirty Days
Counterpoint
Gravity
Latent Image
Bride of Chaotica!
The Fight
Bliss
The Disease
Course: Oblivion
Dark Frontier
Think Tank
Juggernaut
Someone to Watch Over Me
11:59
Relativity
Warhead
Equinox, Part 1 (Season Finale)

VOY Season 6:

Equinox, Part 2 (Season Premiere)
Survival Instinct
Barge of the Dead
Tinker Tenor Doctor Spy
Dragon’s Teeth
Alice
Riddles
One Small Step
The Voyager Conspiracy
Pathfinder
Fair Haven
Tsunkatse
Blink of an Eye
Virtuoso
Collective
Memorial
Spirit Folk
Ashes to Ashes
Child’s Play
Good Shepherd
Fury
Live Fast and Propser
Life Line
Muse
The Haunting of Deck Twelve
Unimatrix Zero, Part 1 (Season Finale)

VOY Season 7:

Unimatrix Zero, Part 2
Drive
Repression
Imperfection
Critical Care
Inside Man
Body and Soul
Nightingale
Flesh and Blood
Shattered
Lineage
Repentance
Prophecy
The Void
Workforce, Part 1
Workforce, Part 2
Human Error
Q2
Author, Author
Friendship One
Natural Law
Homestead
Renaissance Man
Endgame (Season/Series Finale)
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