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Old November 3 2013, 03:21 PM   #16
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Re: Time changed... When will it end.

I actually prefer daylight saving time, and hate standard time. I think we should switch to daylight saving time permanently.
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Old November 3 2013, 03:21 PM   #17
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Re: Time changed... When will it end.

I think we should eliminate time zones through out the entire planet. It would always be the same time and date no matter where you are. What difference does it make if your clock says it's midnight or 7AM in the morning? Most people are still going to get up and go to work or school during the daylight hours. What time it is, is just a way to organize activity.
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Old November 3 2013, 03:41 PM   #18
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Re: Time changed... When will it end.

Anyone is free to set his clock to a standard global time. It's just that people can't agree on where on the globe the benchmark spot should be.
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Old November 3 2013, 03:53 PM   #19
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Re: Time changed... When will it end.

I think the whole "I hate DST" thing is a lot of hyperbole from people. Is it really THAT much of a bother to reset your clocks twice a year? Especially considering most modern devices (phones, TVs, cable boxes, computers) probably do that stuff automatically? The only clock I had to change was the one on my alarm clock and that's because it's an old one. I've seen newer ones with a simple switch that makes the adjustment. Sure, if I bothered to set my stove or microwave clocks I'd have to adjust those too but neither is a bother to do.

The biggest problem is just adjusting to the actual time difference which takes a few days. Which makes "standard time" difficult to adjust as it now gets dark at 6:00 instead of 7:00.

Which is why I think if we're to stick on a time it should be Daylight Time.

I agree that in our modern society I don't think it makes much of a difference (I think studies have shown the energy savings is minimal to non existent) beyond "trying to keep the active hours in the day time."

But, feh, whatever. I got that hour of sleep last night.
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Old November 3 2013, 05:17 PM   #20
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Re: Time changed... When will it end.

It's not a huge imposition to reset four or five clocks, but in the end, it's just not necessary. I mean, what's the point of DST in the first place? What good does it actually do? Is it worth it? How does it make life more efficient?
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Old November 3 2013, 05:30 PM   #21
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Re: Time changed... When will it end.

It's too bad there's not some place you could learn about why DST exists and what the arguments are in favor of or against it.
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Old November 3 2013, 05:45 PM   #22
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Re: Time changed... When will it end.

If you people are going to whine and moan about this, which there is no point in doing since it's not going to change anything, at least get your facts straight. Clueless rambling does not bolster your cause.

Daylight savings time just ended. We're now back on (Time Zone) standard or daylight time.

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/n...nd-november-3/
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Old November 3 2013, 05:58 PM   #23
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Re: Time changed... When will it end.

I know farmers were never a big fan of it. They're in the fields when the sun comes up, regardless of what the clock says.
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Old November 3 2013, 06:03 PM   #24
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Re: Time changed... When will it end.

Waking up early, I realized there is a reason why we need daylight saving time. It's what happens in the morning, not necessarily at night. I like that it stays light later in daylight time, but the week leading up to the roll back, it doesn't really get light in the morning until after 7:00 AM. Do we really want to go to work or school with it still being dark? I know I don't, and the light does help me wake up in the morning.
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Old November 3 2013, 06:07 PM   #25
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Re: Time changed... When will it end.

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Considering that most of the U.S. is now on Daylight Saving Time for nearly two-thirds of the year, maybe it would make more sense to simply have DST all year round. But then children would be waking up and going to school in the dark.

Aaaah, screw the children.
I think the time shifting does more harm than good with young people... with people in general actually. More people get sick, suffer sleep disruptions, car accidents, etc. If the problem is kids getting up in the dark, just have them come in an hour later.
Changing the time kids go to school by an hour would be far more disruptive to people's lives than changing the clocks.
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Old November 3 2013, 06:23 PM   #26
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Re: Time changed... When will it end.

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Waking up early, I realized there is a reason why we need daylight saving time. It's what happens in the morning, not necessarily at night. I like that it stays light later in daylight time, but the week leading up to the roll back, it doesn't really get light in the morning until after 7:00 AM. Do we really want to go to work or school with it still being dark? I know I don't, and the light does help me wake up in the morning.
I dunno I'd rather it be dark in the morning than it getting dark before I've even eaten dinner.
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Old November 3 2013, 06:35 PM   #27
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Anyone is free to set his clock to a standard global time. It's just that people can't agree on where on the globe the benchmark spot should be.
Well technically speaking we do have a global time and it was agreed a hundred plus years ago, UTC (aka GMT).
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Old November 3 2013, 06:59 PM   #28
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Considering that most of the U.S. is now on Daylight Saving Time for nearly two-thirds of the year, maybe it would make more sense to simply have DST all year round. But then children would be waking up and going to school in the dark.

Aaaah, screw the children.
The period of DST has changed since I was a kid, I remember going to the bus stop in the dark.

And y'know, in the snow, uphill both ways, etc, etc.
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Old November 3 2013, 07:08 PM   #29
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Waking up early, I realized there is a reason why we need daylight saving time. It's what happens in the morning, not necessarily at night. I like that it stays light later in daylight time, but the week leading up to the roll back, it doesn't really get light in the morning until after 7:00 AM. Do we really want to go to work or school with it still being dark? I know I don't, and the light does help me wake up in the morning.
I dunno I'd rather it be dark in the morning than it getting dark before I've even eaten dinner.
That's one of the interesting thing about living at 48+ degrees latitude (Canadian border is 49) and on the western edge of the (central) time zone. In the winter, the sun doesn't come up until damn near 9. In the summer, you can read a newspaper outside at quarter to 11.
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Old November 3 2013, 07:49 PM   #30
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Re: Time changed... When will it end.

As you say the further North or South you go from the equator the later the sunrises/sets.
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