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Old October 31 2013, 12:17 PM   #76
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Well to be fair to Colin I didn't mind him in The Two Doctors, but one of the (many) reasons it sucks (IMO) is that the two Doctors don't actually interact very much...although Colin would probably have come off worse if they had
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Old October 31 2013, 03:43 PM   #77
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^Well, it didn't help that Patrick Troughton was an infinitely better actor and Doctor than Colin Baker and would've wiped the floor with him at any time during Baker's tenure. Capaldi is much more likely to hold his own with any of his predecessors. But I still think it's a bad idea to bring back an old Doctor while the new one is still establishing himself.
Yes, and I've always thought that is why they had so few scenes together in The Two Doctors!

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Old October 31 2013, 03:52 PM   #78
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When I think about the Tennant/Smith idea, I'm torn. At first glance, it sounds really freakin' awesome! But I feel like doing it for an entire 13 episode season might be straining the novelty of it.
Farscape made it work for about that long. I think Who could too if they wanted to.
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Old November 1 2013, 09:14 PM   #79
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Well to be fair to Colin I didn't mind him in The Two Doctors, but one of the (many) reasons it sucks (IMO) is that the two Doctors don't actually interact very much...although Colin would probably have come off worse if they had
I disagree, the Two Doctors is great, I'd go so far to say it's the best multi-doctor story to date, and even in my top 10 stories ever!

I'd say the 2 doctors interacted enough. But really instead of five doctors where they all just ran around Gallifrey, and then actually, they only all met up in the last five or so minutes, it actually builds up a story, and when the 2 doctors are together, it's really funny! Plus the Sontarans were great too.
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Old November 1 2013, 09:20 PM   #80
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Quite possibly the worst Sontaran story ever. Just my opinion of course
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Old November 2 2013, 01:22 AM   #81
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Have you ever seen Crimson Horror, or anything else with that Strax one? If you can even count them as Sontaran episodes that is.
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Old November 2 2013, 02:56 AM   #82
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When I think about the Tennant/Smith idea, I'm torn. At first glance, it sounds really freakin' awesome! But I feel like doing it for an entire 13 episode season might be straining the novelty of it.
Farscape made it work for about that long. I think Who could too if they wanted to.
Cut him in half and see if both sides regenerate!
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Old November 2 2013, 06:28 PM   #83
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What was the Farscape one? Two Crichtons?
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Old November 2 2013, 08:32 PM   #84
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What was the Farscape one? Two Crichtons?
Yeah. There was an arc where they had the cast split into two separate groups for much of a season and alternated episodes between them, but Ben Browder was the star and presumably had to be in every episode, so they did an episode that had Crichton being duplicated and then had one Crichton go with each group.
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Old November 3 2013, 01:18 AM   #85
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I actually think "The Two Doctors" is highly underrated. It is one of my favorite 6th Doctor stories. Is has a message to it (whether you agree with that message is another matter, but I always give a point or two for true sincerity and an attempt at substance) and a plot that actually makes sense without a lot of dull plodding that pagues oldWho.

Best of all, the story comes first and the fact that there are two Doctors comes second, a real smart move. Just like how "Caves" wasn't so much about the Doctor regenerating as it was about its story, with the regeneration secondary.

This is how it needs to be done but probably won't. Just like "The End Of Time" was pretty much just two-hours of ZOMG David Tennant is LEAVING....and oh yeah, dull plot with cactus aliens and a rich black guy that quickly gets forgotten, I have a feeling that the 50th and Matt's final episode will be "Multi-Doctors!" and "Regeneration!" first and story, if any, second.
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Old November 3 2013, 05:33 AM   #86
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Have you ever seen Crimson Horror, or anything else with that Strax one? If you can even count them as Sontaran episodes that is.
Heretic! Crimson Horror is amazing and Strax is wonderful!

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Yeah. There was an arc where they had the cast split into two separate groups for much of a season and alternated episodes between them, but Ben Browder was the star and presumably had to be in every episode, so they did an episode that had Crichton being duplicated and then had one Crichton go with each group.
Though to be fair that turned out to be a pretty brilliant choice on their part and an integral part of the overall story.
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What was the Farscape one? Two Crichtons?
Yeah. There was an arc where they had the cast split into two separate groups for much of a season and alternated episodes between them, but Ben Browder was the star and presumably had to be in every episode, so they did an episode that had Crichton being duplicated and then had one Crichton go with each group.
The best part of it was that the episode that it happened in felt like any other episode of the week until you got to the end and both Crichtons were still alive. Then they had them both developing over the course of the season in different ways to the point that they really did feel like different characters and in the end it was the 'wrong' Crichton that died.

Goddamn that show was good.
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Old November 3 2013, 12:42 PM   #88
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Yeah. There was an arc where they had the cast split into two separate groups for much of a season and alternated episodes between them, but Ben Browder was the star and presumably had to be in every episode, so they did an episode that had Crichton being duplicated and then had one Crichton go with each group.
Though to be fair that turned out to be a pretty brilliant choice on their part and an integral part of the overall story.
The quality of that ten ep. story arc is subjective at best, it also drove people away from the show.
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Old November 3 2013, 01:45 PM   #89
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I actually think "The Two Doctors" is highly underrated. It is one of my favorite 6th Doctor stories. Is has a message to it (whether you agree with that message is another matter, but I always give a point or two for true sincerity and an attempt at substance) and a plot that actually makes sense without a lot of dull plodding that pagues oldWho.

Best of all, the story comes first and the fact that there are two Doctors comes second, a real smart move. Just like how "Caves" wasn't so much about the Doctor regenerating as it was about its story, with the regeneration secondary.

This is how it needs to be done but probably won't. Just like "The End Of Time" was pretty much just two-hours of ZOMG David Tennant is LEAVING....and oh yeah, dull plot with cactus aliens and a rich black guy that quickly gets forgotten, I have a feeling that the 50th and Matt's final episode will be "Multi-Doctors!" and "Regeneration!" first and story, if any, second.
Ditto. Two doctors is so underrated, plus the acting in it is wonderful .

Yeah, I have a sad feeling that will happen. While I'd actually like the 50th to be a lot about the doctors as well as story, I would like Smiths finale to not revolve around his death, I want a contrast to Tennant's regeneration. I myself like End of Time, but I want something different. And I feel the doctor regenerating to save a companion is becoming a cliché, it's happened with both of the new series regenerations now, I want the doctor to be killed in action, or to die defeating the villain/s.
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Yeah. There was an arc where they had the cast split into two separate groups for much of a season and alternated episodes between them, but Ben Browder was the star and presumably had to be in every episode, so they did an episode that had Crichton being duplicated and then had one Crichton go with each group.
Though to be fair that turned out to be a pretty brilliant choice on their part and an integral part of the overall story.
The quality of that ten ep. story arc is subjective at best, it also drove people away from the show.
Those people are stupid.
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