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Old October 31 2013, 07:38 PM   #16
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Re: Why I like Enterprise so much

Standout ENT S1 episodes for me:
Broken Bow
The Andorian Incident
Fortunate Son
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Old October 31 2013, 09:25 PM   #17
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The claustrophobia and solitude of the adventure -- like you said -- is dead on, and something that deserved to be explored more. Excellent point.
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Old October 31 2013, 09:58 PM   #18
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Re: Why I like Enterprise so much

I completely agree with the claustrophobia, that's one reason I like the NX-01 so much. It feels like a real ship, with real limitations that is not always easy to live on, surrounded by overwhelming amounts of real space.
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Old October 31 2013, 11:47 PM   #19
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Yep, claustrophobia. And really, considering the canon sizes of the ships, even the larger ones probably should have appeared smaller on screen. After all, most of us live in rooms that are about 10 feet high, maybe 15 feet diagonally or so (small bedrooms are often 9 feet by 9 feet). 3 feet is a little less than a meter.

Even the 2009 Enterprise is 610 - 910 meters (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Starship_Enterprise), or around 1976 - 2948 feet. Even with standard small bedrooms, that's 220 - 327 of them on the entire ship (I can't recall how large that crew was, but there were more people than the 90 or so on the NX-01), with no room whatsoever for engines, the bridge, sickbay, any recreational facilities, an armory, cargo storage, transporter room, etc. Doubling people up in such tiny spaces is possible but that would show even more claustrophobia.

It is possible to fit in everyone and everything, but even on a ship of that size, it should have seemed a helluva lot tighter. Enterprise absolutely gets this feeling right, I feel.
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Old November 1 2013, 12:06 AM   #20
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Re: Why I like Enterprise so much

Wonderful thread!

I enjoy reading positive comments about Enterprise (for a change)

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Old November 1 2013, 12:08 AM   #21
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Also -- keeping with the feeling of claustrophobia, Enterprise felt more like a submarine than any other starship, especially with the design of the corridor, as well as the general interior.
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Old November 1 2013, 12:40 AM   #22
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The NX-01 really is a great ship, and I personally love the overall design and think it fits perfectly within the 22nd Century timeframe and aesthetic. I also like that it has a smaller 'feel' to it because, like everyone else, I think it makes things feel more 'real'.
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Old November 1 2013, 01:15 AM   #23
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I'm also a fan of their uniforms, which to me reflect the exploratory nature of their space mission. They are somewhat reminiscent of astronaut jumpsuits.
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Old November 1 2013, 01:31 AM   #24
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The NX-01 bridge was, IMO, the best designed. It felt like a functional workspace. From the outside, the ship was on the ugly side. However, it was entirely appropriate for what it was supposed to be: more like a USS Monitor than a USS Nimitz.
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Old November 1 2013, 03:17 AM   #25
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JirinPanthosa wrote: View Post
ENT is my fourth favorite Trek series. But probably better than 90% of the TV shows that aired between 1990 and 2010. (Which is way fainter praise, of course, than calling it your third favorite Trek series).

I don't know what you're watching, but we're currently in a Golden Age of Television and have been for some time now starting with The West Wing and the Sopranos in the late 90s. In fact, that's one of my main problems with Enterprise and Voyager. They're telling stories the same way Trek had done since 1987 while sharing the airwaves with some amazing and forward thinking television.

Enterprise got there in Season 3, but that's too little too late. With all of the great shows out there hitting the ground running from Episode One, the Trek Model where they use the first two seasons to find their footing just doesn't work. If Trek ever comes back to the small screen, they need to find away to be captivating from the first shot.
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Old November 1 2013, 08:05 AM   #26
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Yes a huge slab of stuff from our current Golden Age of Television is better than ENT. And better than every single Star Trek series.

But it's not Star Trek. It's like getting asked to agree that your favorite dog is, really you have to admit, not as good as the newly released DOG 2.0.
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Old November 11 2013, 09:03 AM   #27
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Re: Why I like Enterprise so much

The interior feel of the ship is also one of the reasons why I love ENT, for the reasons already stated.

And what's true about the ship is also true about the crew. People are rougher around the edges, they have insecurities and flaws, they're both excited and afraid of what their mission involves. I really liked the notion that this really is the first crew to go on a long-term deep space mission. Of course there are going to be mistakes and bad decisions, but that is only true to life.
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Old November 12 2013, 11:51 AM   #28
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I am a Season 3 & 4 ENTERPRISE fan, personally. The icing on the cake for me, though, was that they finally got the Vulcan make-up to look right on Jolene Blalock. It was very hard to look at her with that nappy wig they'd throw on TNG's Vulcan guest stars, for so long - and take her seriously, in it. It always seemed like the show never took her seriously, always asking her to take her top off and not really developing T'Pol as fully as she deserved. But no matter ... outside of a couple real stinkers, I think the third & fourth seasons of ENT are great STAR TREK in its finest tradition. It's most enjoyable.
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Old November 12 2013, 02:12 PM   #29
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...was that they finally got the Vulcan make-up to look right on Jolene Blalock. It was very hard to look at her with that nappy wig they'd throw on TNG's Vulcan guest stars, for so long - and take her seriously, in it. It always seemed like the show never took her seriously, always asking her to take her top off and not really developing T'Pol as fully as she deserved. But no matter ... outside of a couple real stinkers, I think the third & fourth seasons of ENT are great STAR TREK in its finest tradition. It's most enjoyable.
Totally agree about the "T'Pol look" in season 3. They got it spot on I thought and while the colorful catsuits were nice, it was the hair that set her off for me. (as if I needed something more to set me off )

I did a "stinker comparison" one time comparing ENT to the other series. I found that it had less that the others in the 1st 4 years of their run. Some of the others had more higher ranking episodes, but more stinkers as well.

But I'm a fan of the entire series, I'm sure others' results will vary.
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Old November 13 2013, 05:55 AM   #30
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I've always wondered what the thinking was with T'Pols look in the first two seasons. You take your "sexy" character and put her in a horrible rug of a wig and the ugliest catsuit ever made?
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