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Old October 12 2013, 09:53 AM   #736
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Re: TCM Genre movies schedule...

^^ Sweet. I'll have to take a look at that.

I missed Son of Sinbad. I've got too much going on to keep track of all this stuff.

I did remember to record Horror of Dracula, at least.
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Old October 12 2013, 09:44 PM   #737
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Re: TCM Genre movies schedule...

I watched a bit of Horror Castle last night. At first, I thought it was on video tape. I think certain film to digital transfers can give film that VCR look.
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Old October 13 2013, 09:45 AM   #738
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Re: TCM Genre movies schedule...

I missed Horror Castle, too, but I see that they've put Son of Sinbad (among other things genre) up on On Demand.
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Old October 21 2013, 11:02 PM   #739
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Saw Kwaidan last night. Very good.
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Old October 22 2013, 02:12 AM   #740
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Re: TCM Genre movies schedule...

A little tangential but looks like they're getting cheeky on Fri Oct 25

The Running Man
The Fast and the Furious
Mr. and Mrs. Smith
The Black Swan
Million Dollar Baby
The Walking Dead

Of course, these aren't the ones most would be familar with...
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Old October 22 2013, 02:17 AM   #741
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Re: TCM Genre movies schedule...

Mr. Adventure wrote: View Post
A little tangential but looks like they're getting cheeky on Fri Oct 25

The Running Man
The Fast and the Furious
Mr. and Mrs. Smith
The Black Swan
Million Dollar Baby
The Walking Dead

Of course, these aren't the ones most would be familar with...
I was like... WHAT?!

Good one.

By the way, I really wish they'd come out with that app already.
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Old October 22 2013, 05:26 AM   #742
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Re: TCM Genre movies schedule...

Wait, the Running Man will be on Friday? What time?

Edit: Aw nuts, now I get what you mean. XD
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Old October 22 2013, 07:34 PM   #743
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I finally finished working my way through Nosferatu, which I've been watching in stages because I didn't find it engaging enough to watch straight through. Granted, I'm watching it through modern eyes, but it felt very awkward and broad to me, playing more like a comedy than a horror movie with the over-the-top hamming and mugging, the exaggerated makeup, the crude stop-motion animation that might've seemed scary at the time but felt more like something out of Sesame Street to my eyes, and so on. It didn't help that the actor playing the ineffectual hero reminded me of a cross between Harpo Marx and Bob Denver. (Although the leading lady was kind of striking.)

And the story structure was very awkward, with many important plot points just described in text narration rather than shown, and a seemingly arbitrary set of choices about what parts of the story to actually depict. Not to mention that most of what the two lead characters did in the course of the film was to read a book about vampires and react to what they read. I've never before seen a movie that was mainly told in prose.

It particularly bothered me that Orlok (or is it Nosferatu?) was able to have some kind of mystical influence on Hutter's wife and boss before he even came to Wisborg. The "Knock" character, who was the Renfield equivalent, never even met Nosferatu/Orlok at any point in the story. He just had this random parallel plot going on that had no direct bearing on the main story, such as it was. Plus the film made this big deal of playing up Professor Bulwer the Paracelsian and establishing his expertise in predatory plants and microbes, and then never really had that play a role in the story. Bulwer was summoned for the climax and was there in the closing scene, but didn't actually do anything.

Granted, this was an "Expressionist" film and was thus meant to be stylized, symbolic, and surreal, but some trace of plot coherence doesn't seem incompatible with that. I mean, Metropolis is Expressionist too, and it's a masterpiece. This is a mess.
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Old October 27 2013, 10:07 PM   #744
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Well, that's why we have Salems Lot. Nice nod to his character there.
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Old October 27 2013, 10:16 PM   #745
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I finally finished working my way through Nosferatu, which I've been watching in stages because I didn't find it engaging enough to watch straight through. Granted, I'm watching it through modern eyes, but it felt very awkward and broad to me, playing more like a comedy than a horror movie with the over-the-top hamming and mugging, the exaggerated makeup, the crude stop-motion animation that might've seemed scary at the time but felt more like something out of Sesame Street to my eyes, and so on. It didn't help that the actor playing the ineffectual hero reminded me of a cross between Harpo Marx and Bob Denver. (Although the leading lady was kind of striking.)

And the story structure was very awkward, with many important plot points just described in text narration rather than shown, and a seemingly arbitrary set of choices about what parts of the story to actually depict. Not to mention that most of what the two lead characters did in the course of the film was to read a book about vampires and react to what they read. I've never before seen a movie that was mainly told in prose.

It particularly bothered me that Orlok (or is it Nosferatu?) was able to have some kind of mystical influence on Hutter's wife and boss before he even came to Wisborg. The "Knock" character, who was the Renfield equivalent, never even met Nosferatu/Orlok at any point in the story. He just had this random parallel plot going on that had no direct bearing on the main story, such as it was. Plus the film made this big deal of playing up Professor Bulwer the Paracelsian and establishing his expertise in predatory plants and microbes, and then never really had that play a role in the story. Bulwer was summoned for the climax and was there in the closing scene, but didn't actually do anything.

Granted, this was an "Expressionist" film and was thus meant to be stylized, symbolic, and surreal, but some trace of plot coherence doesn't seem incompatible with that. I mean, Metropolis is Expressionist too, and it's a masterpiece. This is a mess.
All true. Also true is that the vampire's incarnation is an essential part of the movie. People always react differently but I think the vampire is one of the most original and effective presentations, in the same ball park as Chaney's Phantom of the Opera or Whale et al.'s Frankenstein monster. Like Dreyer's Vampyr, with it's scene of a man drowning in flour, a single image can be striking enough to compensate for many flaws.

Many of the flaws enumerated above also seem to stem from adapting Dracula without being able to actually use the book. I suppose that problem makes me look on the absurdities with a kindlier eye.
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Old October 30 2013, 11:41 PM   #746
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Re: TCM Genre movies schedule...

Here's the November schedule (not counting early morning on 11/1 which I listed last month as part of the Halloween marathon). Rather slimmer pickings this month, so I'm tossing in a few things that aren't quite SF/fantasy but might be of interest nonetheless.

WED 11/6
11:15 AM: The Most Dangerous Game (1932): From the producers of King Kong and featuring that film's stars Fay Wray and Robert Armstrong.

SAT 11/9
6:45 AM: The Valley of Gwangi ('69): Cowboys and Harryhausen dinosaurs!
8:30 AM: 7 Faces of Dr. Lao ('64)

SUN 11/10
6:00 PM: Knights of the Round Table ('53): Arthurian movie with Ava Gardner and Mel Ferrer. No word on whether they eat ham and jam and spam a lot.

MON 11/11
8:00 PM: Jaws ('75): Might be about a boat accident. Or maybe not.

TUE 11/12
12:45 AM: Enter the Dragon ('75): Bruce Lee classic.
9:45 PM: Dr. Strangelove ('64)

SAT 11/16
Noon: She ('65): H. Rider Haggard adaptation with Ursula Andress and Peter Cushing.
4:00 PM: Land of the Pharaohs ('55): Joan Collins in her Hollywood debut, playing the wife of the Pharaoh Khufu.

TUE 11/19
4:30 PM: Man in the Attic ('53): Jack the Ripper film with Jack Palance.
Midnight: Soylent Green ('73)

SUN 11/24
2:00 PM: The Thief of Bagdad ('40): Arabian Nights classic.
6:00 PM: The Adventures of Robin Hood ('38): The Errol Flynn original.

THU 11/28
4:15 PM: The Phantom Tollbooth ('69): Chuck Jones's adaptation of Norton Juster's classic children's book.
6:00 PM: The Muppets Take Manhattan ('84)
8:00 PM: Chitty Chitty Bang Bang ('68)
10:30 PM: Doctor Dolittle ('67)

FRI 11/29
1:15 AM: The Incredible Mr. Limpet ('64): Don Knotts turns into a cartoon fish.
9:00 AM: Jason and the Argonauts ('63): Harryhausen!

SAT 11/30
2:30 AM: Topper ('37)
4:15 AM: Turnabout ('40): The body-swap comedy that was a loose inspiration for Star Trek's "Turnabout Intruder."
12:15 PM: 20 Million Miles to Earth ('57): More Harryhausen!
2:00 PM: The Time Machine ('60)
4:00 PM: The Golden Voyage of Sinbad ('73): Even more Harryhausen!
6:00 PM: The Jungle Book ('42): Live-action version with Sabu.
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Old October 31 2013, 10:08 AM   #747
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Looks like I'll have another chance to catch Horror Castle today.

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WED 11/6
11:15 AM: The Most Dangerous Game (1932): From the producers of King Kong and featuring that film's stars Fay Wray and Robert Armstrong.
And filmed at the same time, on many of the same sets. And, interestingly, it was available on home video years before King Kong was. It's a fantastic movie, despite the differences from the short story (Fay Wray is a difference that I won't complain about).

I don't think I've ever seen The Man In The Attic. I'll have to watch for that.
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Old October 31 2013, 11:38 PM   #748
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Great line in Horror Express.
man asks Cushing and Lee, "what if one of you two are the monster?"
Cushing deadpans back, "Monster? but we're British you know"
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Old November 1 2013, 02:41 AM   #749
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^^ My favorite is Cushing in At the Earth's Core: "You cannot mesmerize me, I'm British!"

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Old November 1 2013, 03:09 AM   #750
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Great line in Horror Express.
man asks Cushing and Lee, "what if one of you two are the monster?"
Cushing deadpans back, "Monster? but we're British you know"
And almost without thinking about it, I riffed back, "Ah, the worst kind of monster!"

A few interesting things about that film... the Rasputin inspired monk looked amazingly like Anthony Ainley who played the Master in Doctor Who from 1981 to '89. The credits listed a very different actor. When Cushing and Lee decided to examine the eyes of every passenger to find the entity, I was reminded of the blood test in Campbell's "Who Goes There" which was finally and very creepily depicted in John Carpenter's "The Thing from Another World".

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