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Old October 29 2013, 03:55 AM   #31
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Re: Could Fury have worked with a rewrite?

Scotty was Jack the Ripper (IN SPACE!) for a little while.

He cut open a few girls for fun.

The truly disrespectful thing TNG did was insinuate that Montgomery couldn't hold his liquor.
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Old October 29 2013, 04:08 AM   #32
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The truly disrespectful thing TNG did was insinuate that Montgomery couldn't hold his liquor.
That's true, Guy. They went a little far with that, especially to me, showing up late for the landing party. He drank, but he was as responsible as they come.
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Old October 29 2013, 04:53 AM   #33
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Considering how much he drank during TOS, I assumed that he would be more unreliable sober.
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Old October 29 2013, 05:04 AM   #34
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if it weren't for the pinwheel entity in TOS: Day of the Dove, we might interpret Scotty's hysterics on the bridge as an example of what happens when didn't have his morning Scotch. "Keep your Vulcan hands off me!"
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Old October 29 2013, 06:27 AM   #35
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Women don't spend %90 of their free time passed out drunk in front of ESPN.

The only excuse they have not to be disgusting sexist pigs is laziness.
No. We also think of the children.
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Old October 29 2013, 09:04 AM   #36
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Helen Lovejoy is a #####.
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Old October 30 2013, 03:37 AM   #37
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The truly disrespectful thing TNG did was insinuate that Montgomery couldn't hold his liquor.
That's true, Guy. They went a little far with that, especially to me, showing up late for the landing party. He drank, but he was as responsible as they come.
Eh being he guzzled that whole bottle of whiskey minus the drink or two Picard had, I'd say it's amazing he showed up at all the next morning.

I didn't think it was disrespectful. The guy realized his whole life had lost meaning and in self-pity got drunk. Not classy but understandable.
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Old October 30 2013, 03:43 AM   #38
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I didn't think it was disrespectful. The guy realized his whole life had lost meaning and in self-pity got drunk. Not classy but understandable.
That's a good point.
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Old October 30 2013, 04:07 AM   #39
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I shit you not, this is how I remember the scene from the Tholian Web...

Scotty: "och, ney, that's a fair tickle.. Wotch it called when it's ah home now boyo?"

Bones "Liquidized Klingon nerve gas."

Scotty "Smooth stuff, act as a dandy mixer for some scotch dawn;'t chu think?"
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Old October 30 2013, 04:11 AM   #40
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Hey, I often use nerve gas as a mixer!
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Old November 1 2013, 09:25 PM   #41
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If we're going to gender stereotype people's freetime behavior I think men and women both make some pretty atrocious choices.
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Old November 1 2013, 09:42 PM   #42
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Scottish women don't drink?
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Old November 2 2013, 12:31 AM   #43
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During the fifth season, I sent a couple of spec scripts to the producers and had written out some sketchy outlines for episode ideas in the unlikely event that they would ask me to pitch some stories. One of them was basically the plot of "Fury", except there was no time travel involved.

Old, senile Kes was wreaking havoc on the crew because the Ocampa were going extinct and she blamed Janeway for "abandoning" them. After all the hand-wringing over destroying the Array and saving the Ocampa, it would have been a tragic turn of events to find out that it was all for nothing and they were a doomed race. I mean, between the short life spans and the biologically self-defeating mating cycle, it made sense to me.
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Old November 2 2013, 02:54 AM   #44
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Oh I agree, but here's the problem with Fury... It cited/provided proof that the Ocampa were fine, despite being locked in a box with waning batteries on a dead world with no water.

I imagined them resorting to Canabalism to survive.
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During the fifth season, I sent a couple of spec scripts to the producers and had written out some sketchy outlines for episode ideas in the unlikely event that they would ask me to pitch some stories. One of them was basically the plot of "Fury", except there was no time travel involved.

Old, senile Kes was wreaking havoc on the crew because the Ocampa were going extinct and she blamed Janeway for "abandoning" them. After all the hand-wringing over destroying the Array and saving the Ocampa, it would have been a tragic turn of events to find out that it was all for nothing and they were a doomed race. I mean, between the short life spans and the biologically self-defeating mating cycle, it made sense to me.
That story would have made a lot more sense than the one we got. And wouldn't have required Janeway and Kes to know the entire future for the entire course of the show and just agree not to say anything about it.
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