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Old October 29 2013, 04:21 AM   #31
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Re: NBC rebooting Murder, She Wrote...'cause Ironside worked so well..

I don't agree with your characterization of M,SW. As far as I recall, it played its mysteries as fairly as any other TV show. There's no way Levinson and Link would've tolerated a mystery that handled its clues as unfairly and shoddily as you imply.
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Old October 29 2013, 07:06 AM   #32
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I'm not making a blanket characterization... I'm only reporting what I saw and why I wasn't particularly compelled to continue watching. It could be that I was unlucky enough to catch the worst of the episodes.

Besides, Ellery Queen's structure was unusual compared to most mystery shows, what with the TV equivalent of the novels' "Challenge to the Reader." That was all I meant. But it's certainly true that the Ellery Queen creators would know better. I didn't realize M,SW was created by the same people either.
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Old October 29 2013, 07:20 AM   #33
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Beyond what's been mentioned, one of the things about Murder, She Wrote that I liked was that not only did Jessica figure out who did it, but also she figured out why. Even if it became trite, I still thought that the sympathy she often displayed for the killer, because of whatever sad story that had led them to murder, was kinda touching. Columbo was often that way, and even more so, so maybe this was one of the touches from Levinson and Link.
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Old October 29 2013, 09:27 AM   #34
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As with most obvious jokes people make about any long running series the "Isn't it a bit suspicious how everywhere she goes people die?" thing was lampshaded in the show itself at least once- In the episode with Patrick McGoohan as a prosecutor he puts her on the stand and starts asking her about the very odd life she leads with "Isn't it odd how your nephews are always being accused of murder?" style questions.
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Old October 29 2013, 03:14 PM   #35
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I'm not making a blanket characterization... I'm only reporting what I saw and why I wasn't particularly compelled to continue watching. It could be that I was unlucky enough to catch the worst of the episodes.
Well, it was a very long-running show. Did you watch at the beginning, or come in later? I found the later seasons less engaging than the early ones, although the one J. Michael Straczynski produced was pretty good.
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Old October 29 2013, 03:52 PM   #36
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NBC failed on Ironside from the beginning by not casting Michael Ironside as Ironside. I'm afraid they're going to go too edgy with Murder, She Wrote by making her a lesbian pop singer or something who writes books and solves crimes.
I know.. make Jessica Fletcher a writer of modern fantasy novels, with vampires, werewolves, etc. and have her come across those creatures every week. Make it a blend of Murder She Wrote and Kolchak: The Night Stalker.

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Old October 29 2013, 05:29 PM   #37
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^So not J.B. Fletcher, but J.K. Fletcher?
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Old October 29 2013, 05:53 PM   #38
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I'm not making a blanket characterization... I'm only reporting what I saw and why I wasn't particularly compelled to continue watching. It could be that I was unlucky enough to catch the worst of the episodes.
Well, it was a very long-running show. Did you watch at the beginning, or come in later? I found the later seasons less engaging than the early ones, although the one J. Michael Straczynski produced was pretty good.
I couldn't even tell you now. Most likely whatever I've seen was not first-run.

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^So not J.B. Fletcher, but J.K. Fletcher?
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^So not J.B. Fletcher, but J.K. Fletcher?
haha, it writes itself.
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Old January 22 2014, 07:50 AM   #40
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NBC’s ‘Murder She Wrote’ Reboot Not Going Forward, Could Be Revisited In The Future
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