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Old October 27 2013, 11:55 PM   #1
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Savage Curtain's honor guard

In The Savage Curtain, Kirk orders a presidential honor detachment to greet the alien who appears as Abraham Lincoln. When Lincoln materialized on the transporter, and as he steps off, I noticed the guards pointing their phasers at Lincoln.

Granted it was a symbolic affair, but is it customary for guards to point their weapons directly at the President?

I accept the kinda cheap, tinny-sounding 'taped' music that was played for the event, but the weapon thing seemed strange.
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Old October 28 2013, 12:13 AM   #2
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Possibly because Kirk knew it really couldn't be Lincoln, and was some type of alien impostor.

Or maybe the guards were from the South.
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Old October 28 2013, 12:15 AM   #3
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His order was "Security, send a detachment to the transporter room immediately, phaser sidearms, and be prepared to give presidential honors." It may have been partially sarcastic on that last part, but I think he was preparing for all eventualities, depending on what Bones' medical tricorder showed they had beamed aboard, and putting caution first. His last order to them before Lincoln materialized was "Security, stand ready."

As Kirk explained to Lincoln, "A starship on active duty never carries an honor detachment."
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Old October 28 2013, 12:22 AM   #4
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Re: Savage Curtain's honor guard

LMFAOschwarz wrote: View Post
In The Savage Curtain, Kirk orders a presidential honor detachment to greet the alien who appears as Abraham Lincoln. When Lincoln materialized on the transporter, and as he steps off, I noticed the guards pointing their phasers at Lincoln.

Granted it was a symbolic affair, but is it customary for guards to point their weapons directly at the President?

I accept the kinda cheap, tinny-sounding 'taped' music that was played for the event, but the weapon thing seemed strange.
It makes sense: Lee Bergere had to deliver his line "If those are weapons, please lower them" line. The scene needed to blocked so that the guards' phasers were drawn and leveled at Lincoln.
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Old October 28 2013, 06:16 AM   #5
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It makes sense: Lee Bergere had to deliver his line "If those are weapons, please lower them" line. The scene needed to blocked so that the guards' phasers were drawn and leveled at Lincoln.
True enough, that reinforces that it was intended from the beginning. Clearly they were ready for diplomatic functions such as greeting dignitaries (i.e. Journey to Babel), and they didn't point their weapons at Sarek, so it must've been Lincoln-specific such as you say. It just looked odd to me, because otherwise they were respectful to Lincoln in every way. I wasn't implying they were in error, but I guess it was a good thing that that 'young and inexperienced' guard from Friday's Child wasn't there!
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Old October 28 2013, 02:25 PM   #6
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I guess it was a good thing that that 'young and inexperienced' guard from Friday's Child wasn't there!
A President!!!
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Old October 28 2013, 04:09 PM   #7
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Re: Savage Curtain's honor guard

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In The Savage Curtain, Kirk orders a presidential honor detachment to greet the alien who appears as Abraham Lincoln. When Lincoln materialized on the transporter, and as he steps off, I noticed the guards pointing their phasers at Lincoln.

Granted it was a symbolic affair, but is it customary for guards to point their weapons directly at the President?
Both guards were descendants of Booth?
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Old October 28 2013, 05:36 PM   #8
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GoredShipCapt'n wrote: View Post
LMFAOschwarz wrote: View Post
I guess it was a good thing that that 'young and inexperienced' guard from Friday's Child wasn't there!
A President!!!
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How rude--that's not how it happened at all!!
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Old October 28 2013, 06:42 PM   #9
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Gun safety:

1. Always point the gun in a safe direction.

2. Always keep your finger outside the trigger guard, except when ready to fire...


An officer giving a gun safety lecture used this photo, and it got a chuckle from the class. Although, phasers do not have trigger guards.
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Old October 28 2013, 08:38 PM   #10
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Grant wrote: View Post
GoredShipCapt'n wrote: View Post
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I guess it was a good thing that that 'young and inexperienced' guard from Friday's Child wasn't there!
A President!!!
(pulls trigger)
How rude--that's not how it happened at all!!
Only because the Capellans were armed.
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Old October 29 2013, 12:31 AM   #11
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A President!!!
(pulls trigger)
A Republican !!!
(pulls trigger)

Melakon wrote: View Post
maybe the guards were from the South.
A Damn Yankee !!!
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Old October 29 2013, 04:10 AM   #12
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Well, you guys can have some fun, so here's mine!

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Old October 29 2013, 04:44 AM   #13
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Lincoln pulls out a kligat and kills him. Grant's one of the fastest on-screen deaths, I think he's on the planet surface less than 15 seconds before biting it.
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Old October 29 2013, 04:48 AM   #14
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Kirk: kligats...you used kligats as a boy, didn't you?
Lincoln: Indeed I did...
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Old October 29 2013, 05:01 AM   #15
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That's how he got the nickname, the Rail Splitter.
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