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Old October 26 2013, 06:26 AM   #31
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Re: What's Roddenberry's problem with HAIR?

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Old October 26 2013, 06:28 AM   #32
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Old October 26 2013, 02:19 PM   #33
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To be slightly serious about this for a moment, compared to the full-haired folks shown, it's a very small percentage of us people of scalp who have really been shown. And as Patrick Stewart once mentioned about there still being baldness in the future, "by the twenty fourth century, no one will care."

I do remember all the buzz (no pun intended) when TMP came out about Ilia. Months before I even saw the movie, I remember people talking about the new alien who was a bald woman. That was a lot of word of mouth publicity. Also, probably wasn't too expensive an alien to create. Not that they seemed to be watching the budget too much on that movie. But just shaving her head instead of expensive prosthetics may have saved enough money to give us ten more minutes of the Enterprise flying into Vger.

And don't forget, Walter Keonig is also a baldie, although I'm not exactly sure when that happened.
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Old October 26 2013, 02:51 PM   #34
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First he cast Shatner. Not only he is bald under the toupee, but in the several instances (enough to turn it into a meme) he appeared shirtless, he had to sport a shaved chest.
I always figured Shatner's chest was to emphasize his pecs more, same reason bodybuilders do it. If the chest is too fuzzy, it sort of blurs everything and makes the muscles look less defined.

As for Sisko, I figured it was because Avery Brooks is much better looking with the bald head. He has the head/face for it.
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Old October 26 2013, 02:56 PM   #35
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What's your problem with baldness?
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Old October 26 2013, 03:52 PM   #36
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From what we know about Roddenberry, that's probably how she got the role.

The way I understand it, in the mid sixties Shatner wasn't actually bald, but he did have very fine hair and the hair stylists just could do anything with it, it would just laid there. That why he wore a rug, not just on Star Trek, but on other acting jobs too.


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Old October 27 2013, 12:15 AM   #37
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To be slightly serious about this for a moment, compared to the full-haired folks shown, it's a very small percentage of us people of scalp who have really been shown.
People of scalp.. I like it!

Far as I'm concerned, there ain't enough baldies in Trek. I've been a PERSON OF SCALP for years now. Difference there is, though, I did it on purpose. (Every morning.)
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Old October 27 2013, 12:30 AM   #38
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Futuristic hair cuts eh? The people who think TOS is too cheesy would have had a field day with that. Any idea what he wanted them to look like?
I've never seen any sketches, so maybe it never went any further than Roddenberry floating the idea. The actors objected because they would have had to wear weird haircuts in their everyday life. Spock's haircut probably gives us a clue of what he had in mind; Leonard was wearing it in game show appearances at the time, though not as heavily lacquered.
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And thus the Vulcan and Romulan devotion to the bowl cut was born..

You know what is alien. Having an entire species sport the exact same haircut.
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Old October 27 2013, 03:19 AM   #40
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What's your problem with baldness?
Who, me? Personally I hate baldies and I think they all are abominations that should be killed with fire. But this isn't personal, is it?

Now Roddenberry must've DESPISED hair. More examples: Evil Spock had facial hair, Good Spock didn't. Then there's the Klingons, the Mugato, all hirsute.
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Old October 27 2013, 03:20 AM   #41
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And thus the Vulcan and Romulan devotion to the bowl cut was born..

You know what is alien. Having an entire species sport the exact same haircut.
Moe Howard is probably revered as a human of high intelligence in their cultures.
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Old October 27 2013, 04:21 AM   #42
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And thus the Vulcan and Romulan devotion to the bowl cut was born..

You know what is alien. Having an entire species sport the exact same haircut.
Moe Howard is probably revered as a human of high intelligence in their cultures.
For Deltans its Curly.
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Old October 27 2013, 04:28 AM   #43
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The way I understand it, in the mid sixties Shatner wasn't actually bald, but he did have very fine hair and the hair stylists just could do anything with it, it would just laid there. That why he wore a rug, not just on Star Trek, but on other acting jobs too.

According to this authoritative source, Bill Shatner started wearing an on-screen toupee in 1957 as his hairline began to recede while he was still in his twenties. No one has been able to find a photo of Shatner sans toupee taken later than 1959.
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Old October 27 2013, 04:43 AM   #44
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No one has been able to find a photo of Shatner sans toupee taken later than 1959.
Obviously, Kirk and Sulu were retrieving photographic evidence besides that from Captain Christopher's wing cameras.
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Old October 27 2013, 05:01 AM   #45
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