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Old October 10 2013, 11:24 PM   #181
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Re: NuTrek references in the novels

You'd think they could have come up with something that made sense.
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Old October 11 2013, 02:00 AM   #182
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Yeah, that one's always been random. I've never understood what point it served in the movie. Especially since it was never mentioned before or after.
Near as I can figure? Something to give the characters more screen time.
I recently re-read the novelization by J.M. Dillard, who had the thankless task of making this scene semi-plausible. She basically takes the tack that Uhura, who is under Sybok's influence at the time, is not exactly herself when she comes on to Scotty.

Not sure that was the original intent in the movie, but it works in the book, more or less.
I was under the impression they were already involved at the beginning of the movie, that Uhura bringing Scotty "dinner" on the bridge was an indication they were in a relationship. Or at the very least, more than friends.
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Old October 11 2013, 02:08 AM   #183
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Near as I can figure? Something to give the characters more screen time.
I recently re-read the novelization by J.M. Dillard, who had the thankless task of making this scene semi-plausible. She basically takes the tack that Uhura, who is under Sybok's influence at the time, is not exactly herself when she comes on to Scotty.

Not sure that was the original intent in the movie, but it works in the book, more or less.
I was under the impression they were already involved at the beginning of the movie, that Uhura bringing Scotty "dinner" on the bridge was an indication they were in a relationship. Or at the very least, more than friends.
Yeah, and it's implied that they had plans to spend Shore Leave together, but he got caught up in his work instead . . . .

But I'm still want to blame it all on touch-feely emo mind-melds and make it all Sybok's fault.

At least that's my story and I'm sticking to it . . . .
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Old October 11 2013, 07:20 AM   #184
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But I'm still want to blame it all on touch-feely emo mind-melds and make it all Sybok's fault.

At least that's my story and I'm sticking to it . . . .
Except the flirty "I brought you dinner" scene is long before they met Sybok.
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Old October 22 2013, 08:41 AM   #185
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Spock/Uhura are a far more likely couple than Scotty/Uhura from The Final Frontier.
Oh god, yes. That was cringe-inducing . . . ..

Scotty/Uhura were under a spell. Lets also remember they were a couple in a terrible film. So of course the relationship is terrible as well. I like a Trek couple when the romance is well written this is another reason why I have always hated slash fan fictions. Its so OOC and unnecessary.

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Old October 22 2013, 01:35 PM   #186
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But I'm still want to blame it all on touch-feely emo mind-melds and make it all Sybok's fault.

At least that's my story and I'm sticking to it . . . .
Except the flirty "I brought you dinner" scene is long before they met Sybok.
Uhura and Chekov went on shore leave together in the original series too. He was even affectionately teasing her because she wanted to go shopping all the time and he had to go with her. If they were all friends when they were young it's only natural for me to imagine that they were all the more a family when they got old so in that I don't see flirting between Uhura and Scotty or a hint that they were a couple. I almost see her acting like a mother tbh.
In fact, in a magazine Nichelle Nichols commented it saying that they were just friends and their interactions were influenced by the friendship between her and James.

Anyway, in the other scene later she definitely WAS under the influence of Sybok. It's even stated in the script.
I don't think we could infer they were already dating before that because otherwise the dialog in that scene wouldn't make any sense, Sybok's influence or not, since Uhura said that Sybok had put her in touch with feelings she has never expressed before.
Had them been a couple you'd get an explicit hint of it in the end or the next movie that we never got. If anything, even in the DC comics sequel they say that she wasn't herself and they remain just friends (you can read the scan here: http://www.chud.com/community/t/1155...0#post_3021156)
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Old October 22 2013, 05:18 PM   #187
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The whole Spock/Uhura in the new movies is something I do not like, but it does give us something new to watch besides examining how closely the new actors imitate the classic roles.
I mean when you see Chris Pine do the little 'Kirk-Hop' when he goes over to his command chair at the end of the first move I smiled- he got that little nuance down right, but I did spend most of my time watching the actors try to match the performances of the original cast, being those people we were sop familiar with. Having the S/U relationship pop in from left field was weird, but it did reconfirm that in this rebooted universe all bets were off...
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Old October 25 2013, 04:31 PM   #188
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I really want the novels to confirm that Tryla Scott is the unholy grandspawn of Scotty/Uhura now
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Old October 25 2013, 06:08 PM   #189
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I really want the novels to confirm that Tryla Scott is the unholy grandspawn of Scotty/Uhura now
Just have her have a beautiful singing voice and an unquenchable thirst for Scotch.
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Old October 26 2013, 01:13 AM   #190
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Near as I can figure? Something to give the characters more screen time.
I recently re-read the novelization by J.M. Dillard, who had the thankless task of making this scene semi-plausible. She basically takes the tack that Uhura, who is under Sybok's influence at the time, is not exactly herself when she comes on to Scotty.

Not sure that was the original intent in the movie, but it works in the book, more or less.
I was under the impression they were already involved at the beginning of the movie, that Uhura bringing Scotty "dinner" on the bridge was an indication they were in a relationship. Or at the very least, more than friends.
Scotty's reply about "Lassie...you're the most understanding woman I know" would also seem to bear this out.
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