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Old October 24 2013, 10:25 PM   #16
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Re: NBC rebooting Murder, She Wrote...'cause Ironside worked so well..

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I'm afraid they're going to go too edgy with Murder, She Wrote by making her a lesbian pop singer or something who writes books and solves crimes.
I'd watch that every week.
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Old October 24 2013, 10:27 PM   #17
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I'm afraid they're going to go too edgy with Murder, She Wrote by making her a lesbian pop singer or something who writes books and solves crimes.
They're making her an African-American "hospital administrator and amateur sleuth... who self-publishes her first mystery novel." I guess the self-publishing thing is trying to be trendy.


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The premise for MURDER SHE WROTE stretches credibility to the breaking point, at least for the original series. 22 times each year for 12 years the same woman just happens to be in the vicinity of one murder virtually seven days. I long ago came to the conclusion that the 264 ''murderers'' were framed and Jessica Fletcher was guilty as hell.
Yep, that's a popular theory, Jessica Fletcher as the world's most brilliant serial killer. Although it still doesn't explain why anyone was still willing to invite her anywhere after a while...
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Old October 24 2013, 10:41 PM   #18
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Re: NBC rebooting Murder, She Wrote...'cause Ironside worked so well..

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The premise for MURDER SHE WROTE stretches credibility to the breaking point, at least for the original series. 22 times each year for 12 years the same woman just happens to be in the vicinity of one murder virtually seven days. I long ago came to the conclusion that the 264 ''murderers'' were framed and Jessica Fletcher was guilty as hell.
Yep, that's a popular theory, Jessica Fletcher as the world's most brilliant serial killer. Although it still doesn't explain why anyone was still willing to invite her anywhere after a while...
Agree.
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Old October 24 2013, 10:42 PM   #19
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Re: NBC rebooting Murder, She Wrote...'cause Ironside worked so well..

Sort of sounds like a potential disaster along the lines of Mrs. Columbo, which was reworked into Kate Columbo, which was reworked into Kate the Detective, which was reworked into Kate Loves a Mystery, just packaged under a different name and premise.
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Old October 24 2013, 11:14 PM   #20
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Re: NBC rebooting Murder, She Wrote...'cause Ironside worked so well..

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The premise for MURDER SHE WROTE stretches credibility to the breaking point, at least for the original series. 22 times each year for 12 years the same woman just happens to be in the vicinity of one murder virtually seven days. I long ago came to the conclusion that the 264 ''murderers'' were framed and Jessica Fletcher was guilty as hell.
You just ruined the huge plot twist NBC had planned to end the rebooted series!
That'd be an interesting reboot...


Or they could just make a tv show adaptation of Fatal Attraction.
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Old October 25 2013, 12:06 AM   #21
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Sort of sounds like a potential disaster....
Any unrealized premise is a potential disaster, or a potential success. It's all in the execution.

After all, it wasn't the concept of Murder, She Wrote that made it succeed. The concept, as many have noted, was ridiculous. What made it work was Angela Lansbury's talent and charisma, and the legion of name guest stars she was surrounded with, and the cleverness of the writing and the mysteries. So if this version has a strong lead, clever writing, and good guests, it could work too. Or it could turn out to be a mess. That's the gamble with any series, remake or not.
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Old October 25 2013, 12:14 AM   #22
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I long ago came to the conclusion that the 264 ''murderers'' were framed and Jessica Fletcher was guilty as hell.
If they used this premise for the reboot, I definitely would watch it.
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Old October 25 2013, 12:52 AM   #23
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Kirby wrote: View Post
I'm afraid they're going to go too edgy with Murder, She Wrote by making her a lesbian pop singer or something who writes books and solves crimes.
They're making her an African-American "hospital administrator and amateur sleuth... who self-publishes her first mystery novel." I guess the self-publishing thing is trying to be trendy.


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The premise for MURDER SHE WROTE stretches credibility to the breaking point, at least for the original series. 22 times each year for 12 years the same woman just happens to be in the vicinity of one murder virtually seven days. I long ago came to the conclusion that the 264 ''murderers'' were framed and Jessica Fletcher was guilty as hell.
Yep, that's a popular theory, Jessica Fletcher as the world's most brilliant serial killer. Although it still doesn't explain why anyone was still willing to invite her anywhere after a while...
Or why Cabot Cove was still populated. Seriously given the murder rate there is a wonder anyone stayed and didn't move somewhere safer.
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Old October 25 2013, 01:51 AM   #24
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Re: NBC rebooting Murder, She Wrote...'cause Ironside worked so well..

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Yep, that's a popular theory, Jessica Fletcher as the world's most brilliant serial killer. Although it still doesn't explain why anyone was still willing to invite her anywhere after a while...
Or why Cabot Cove was still populated. Seriously given the murder rate there is a wonder anyone stayed and didn't move somewhere safer.
Considering that Cabot Cove was supposed to be a small fishing village in Maine, it's a wonder anyone was still alive!
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Old October 25 2013, 09:05 AM   #25
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Re: NBC rebooting Murder, She Wrote...'cause Ironside worked so well..

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Considering that Cabot Cove was supposed to be a small fishing village in Maine, it's a wonder anyone was still alive!
It's been calculated that Cabot Cove has a murder rate of 86 per 1000; by comparison, the most murderous city in the world, Caracas, has a murder rate of 1.1 per 1000.
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Old October 25 2013, 10:15 AM   #26
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[...] What made it work was Angela Lansbury's talent and charisma [...]
Bingo. Even though the show required Angela Lansbury to utilise perhaps 2% (at most) of her extraordinary talent, it was that talent that made the show work. It's somewhat depressing that M,SW is what most people will remember Ms Lansbury for.

To each their own and all, but I won't be watching any remake, regardless of who's involved.
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Old October 28 2013, 10:09 PM   #27
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The question is, why didn't the NAACP Image Awards ever nominate Angela Lansbury for her role? Given that Octavia Spencer has a probable lock on said nomination, playing the same character....
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Old October 28 2013, 10:26 PM   #28
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What made it work was Angela Lansbury's talent and charisma, and the legion of name guest stars she was surrounded with, and the cleverness of the writing and the mysteries.
Was it clever? Whenever I watched it, Jessica solved the case by pulling heretofore-unknown facts out of thin air and fingering a suspect who hadn't been discussed before. I figured out pretty fast that you can generally tell "whodunit" by observing which character figures into the story the least.
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Old October 28 2013, 11:48 PM   #29
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^Some seasons of M,SW were clever, others not so much. As with any long-running show, it was variable. But at its best it was a pretty solid mystery show. Remember, it was co-created by Richard Levinson and William Link, who also gave us Columbo. (Hey, I just learned on Wikipedia that it was based on their failed Ellery Queen series -- they just took the idea of a mystery writer-cum-amateur detective and gender-swapped it.)
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Old October 29 2013, 12:43 AM   #30
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At least with Ellery Queen you had a chance to decipher the clues! (Not that I ever succeeded, of course.)
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