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Old October 20 2013, 11:43 PM   #16
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Re: R.I.P. Lou Scheimer (1929-2013) (Producer of TAS)

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I do like how the credit wheel gave BOTH of those men top billing!
Yeah, I always figured that was part of the reason for it. But it was certainly a memorable solution. I think that as a child, I came to think of their shows as "Lou Scheimer-Norm Prescott shows" (not necessarily in that order) before I became aware of the name Filmation.
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Old October 20 2013, 11:54 PM   #17
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First thing I did when I found out was watch this.

R.I.P. Lou...

EDIT: Second thing I watched.
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Old October 21 2013, 01:09 AM   #18
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Scheimer was also one of the few who kept animation in this country at a cost to himself. Whatever you can say about the quality of the animation, I always found Filmation shows to have a heart and soul not many children's programs can match.

Hell, the Star Trek stuff was so good it was pretty much like a fourth season.
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Old October 23 2013, 11:39 PM   #19
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RIP indeed! Two things about him, Filmation and TAS:

First, whatever the artistic limitations, Scheimer gave Fontana and Roddenberry complete creative control. Other studios would have given us youngster Kirk and Spock at the Academy, and/or wacky sidekicks.

Second, in reading interviews with Scheimer, it's very clear that he just plain got a hell of a kick out of doing TAS. He was so excited the few times he was able to assemble the entire cast for voice work. He couldn't resist doing a few voices himself.

One more thing: Trek on a budget? TAS sure was. But it was produced entirely in the U.S. by union animators. These days all the real animation work is shipped overseas.
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Old October 24 2013, 12:24 AM   #20
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^Well, Scheimer did voices on almost every Filmation show.
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Old October 24 2013, 07:50 PM   #21
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^Well, Scheimer did voices on almost every Filmation show.
Yep, usually by manipulating his voice to make it really high or really low. He played Orco and many others on He-Man (a show which, incidentally, used a ton of TOS sound FX thanks probably to TAS).
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Old October 24 2013, 08:35 PM   #22
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Yep, usually by manipulating his voice to make it really high or really low.
Sometimes his voice was processed, yes; for instance, his Batcomputer voice on the '77 New Adventures of Batman was slowed down to sound deeper. But a lot of the time he was just varying his own vocal pitch within its natural range, e.g. as Dumb Donald on Fat Albert or the narrator on countless Filmation shows.


He played Orco and many others on He-Man (a show which, incidentally, used a ton of TOS sound FX thanks probably to TAS).
At the time, there were dedicated companies that provided sound effects for many different shows, using their own standard libraries of effects. Filmation's sound effects and music editing were usually provided by the Horta-Mahana Corporation, although they weren't credited on TAS. TOS's sound effects were provided by Glen Glenn Sound. But I think there was some overlap between the sound effects libraries.
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Old October 24 2013, 11:03 PM   #23
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Dreadfully underappreciated legend of televised animation. He and his associates (Prescott, Sutherland, et al), set the course for the film/TV industry realizing there was great potential in adapting live action properties for decades, and their model is still going, as seen in the Clone Wars series. Scheimer's productions had heart, and a sluck edge that was lacking in the often corny work of Hanna-Barbera, or the hit and miss work of DePatie-Feeling, Krantz Films, Ruby-Spears, Fred Calvert, et al.

Relevant to this board, Scheimer and his colleagues were undeniably responsible for driving TOS forward with a series that successfully illustrated that there was more to love and expect from that world--beyond the 79 live-action episodes. TAS--and the creative minds behind it--deserve much respect for keeping Star Trek alive.

Scheimer will be missed in this world.
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Old October 25 2013, 10:56 PM   #24
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At the time, there were dedicated companies that provided sound effects for many different shows, using their own standard libraries of effects. Filmation's sound effects and music editing were usually provided by the Horta-Mahana Corporation, although they weren't credited on TAS. TOS's sound effects were provided by Glen Glenn Sound. But I think there was some overlap between the sound effects libraries.
Must have been. Seemingly every sound effect used in TOS was on He-Man: photon torpedoes, transporter beam, red alert klaxon, even, I think, TOS bridge sounds. Until recently when my kids got the e-Man DVDs, I didn't realize just how many effects were reused.
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Old October 25 2013, 11:06 PM   #25
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^Most of those sound effects have been used on many different shows, and some of them predate TOS. I know the bridge sound effects were used in an episode of The Twilight Zone years before they showed up in Trek. And the phaser sound effect is the same sound used for the levitation of the Martian war machines in War of the Worlds, just sped up to give it a higher pitch (usually).

And Filmation had previously used those SFX in other shows like Jason of Star Command and Flash Gordon. Hmm, it's possible, I suppose, that Horta-Mahana licensed or bought them from Glen Glenn or Paramount or whoever for use in TAS, and thus was able to use them later in other shows.

But Trek sounds seem to be in pretty general usage now, showing up in things like Futurama. Maybe the copyright has lapsed?
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