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Old October 22 2013, 10:45 AM   #271
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According to a survey done for Forbes Magazine, the most disliked players currently in the NFL are:

10. Reggie Bush
9. Carson Palmer
8. Tom Brady
7. Tony Romo
6. Jay Cutler
5. Mark Sanchez
4. Ben Roethlisberger
3. Ndamukong Suh
2. Manti T'eo
1. Michael Vick
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Old October 22 2013, 11:19 AM   #272
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I am no fan of Rex Ryan at all but he basically earned his team a win by tipping off the refs about that asinine rule prior to the game. I won't get into the rule because it's pretty crazy in and of itself but when you call attention to a possible infraction before the opening kickoff you know the refs have to call it because they know you will be watching for it closely. A little gamesmenship to be sure but it paid off in a crucial juncture. You see something crazy every sunday in the NFl.
That's pretty common. If a team discovers that teams are playing looseley with a rule during film studies, they will alert the refs.
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Old October 22 2013, 11:24 AM   #273
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Good to see Smith found a groove out there. Maybe getting the boot from SF was exactly the kick in the pants he needed to pull it together.
Smith has a decent completion percentage, but 7 TDs against 4 INT, and a 79.3 passer rating. That's not exactly a "groove" -- it's mediocre. In fact, it matches his career stats almost precisely (lifetime passer rating: 79.2). The Chiefs are 26th in the league in overall passing yards; they're winning because Jamaal Charles has been very good and the rushing defense has been obscene. Alex Smith is by no means the reason Kansas City is undefeated.
All the more reason to celebrate how insanely well the trade turned out in SF's favor then.
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Old October 22 2013, 11:50 AM   #274
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I am no fan of Rex Ryan at all but he basically earned his team a win by tipping off the refs about that asinine rule prior to the game. I won't get into the rule because it's pretty crazy in and of itself but when you call attention to a possible infraction before the opening kickoff you know the refs have to call it because they know you will be watching for it closely. A little gamesmenship to be sure but it paid off in a crucial juncture. You see something crazy every sunday in the NFl.
That's pretty common. If a team discovers that teams are playing looseley with a rule during film studies, they will alert the refs.
No doubt but given how vague this rule was it was a good catch. It's also possible he was tipped off by his brother who played them the week prior. Either way, one upping Belichik is extremely rare.
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Old October 22 2013, 12:08 PM   #275
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Would have appeared a bit more strategic if the Jets weren't doing the same thing on the field goal the Pats kicked to tie it. Since they did, though, doesn't seem likely that Rex tipped off the refs, and then made the same rule violation first...

Forget who, but someone with a connection to the refs (in general, not the guys from this game) said that the league had decided to make it more of an emphasis this week, as it was a new rule and basically being ignored by the refs (it had been happening a lot without any flags). So they were looking for it, or it was on the top of their minds. To not say anything earlier in the game, and then toss it on the potential game-winner in OT is kinda questionable, though.

Either way, it shouldn't have come to that. And the Pats are going to make the playoffs anyway (but not go far due to injury, I'd bet), so not like it's a season killer or anything...
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Old October 22 2013, 02:12 PM   #276
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Would have appeared a bit more strategic if the Jets weren't doing the same thing on the field goal the Pats kicked to tie it. Since they did, though, doesn't seem likely that Rex tipped off the refs, and then made the same rule violation first...

Forget who, but someone with a connection to the refs (in general, not the guys from this game) said that the league had decided to make it more of an emphasis this week, as it was a new rule and basically being ignored by the refs (it had been happening a lot without any flags). So they were looking for it, or it was on the top of their minds. To not say anything earlier in the game, and then toss it on the potential game-winner in OT is kinda questionable, though.

Either way, it shouldn't have come to that. And the Pats are going to make the playoffs anyway (but not go far due to injury, I'd bet), so not like it's a season killer or anything...
http://nypost.com/2013/10/21/did-jet...patriots-push/

Squeaky wheel gets the oil. Kind of curious why the Pats would even risk it (assuming they knew the rule) on a 56 yard field goal. I agree the timing of that call was highly suspicious and I'm still struggling to understand why that particular tactic warranted a rule change. It doesn't really seem to be a safety risk and it doesn't affect the kicking game in the grand scheme of things. Bizarre rule.
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Old October 23 2013, 06:52 AM   #277
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Nothing signals the early end of a team's season like Kellen Clemens and Brady Quinn being atop the QB depth chart.
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Old October 23 2013, 01:30 PM   #278
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Nothing signals the early end of a team's season like Kellen Clemens and Brady Quinn being atop the QB depth chart.
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Old October 23 2013, 05:22 PM   #279
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Old October 23 2013, 05:50 PM   #280
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Old October 23 2013, 07:00 PM   #281
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100's I can believe. There's no way he has the arm strength to throw to the 200's or higher.
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Old October 23 2013, 09:42 PM   #282
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Would have appeared a bit more strategic if the Jets weren't doing the same thing on the field goal the Pats kicked to tie it. Since they did, though, doesn't seem likely that Rex tipped off the refs, and then made the same rule violation first...

Forget who, but someone with a connection to the refs (in general, not the guys from this game) said that the league had decided to make it more of an emphasis this week, as it was a new rule and basically being ignored by the refs (it had been happening a lot without any flags). So they were looking for it, or it was on the top of their minds. To not say anything earlier in the game, and then toss it on the potential game-winner in OT is kinda questionable, though.
Yeah, makes the "Tuck Rule" and the call against the Raiders years ago look just that much worse and even more puzzling, doesn't it -- I mean using your assessment.

The Tuck Rule wasn't on anyone's mind that day, it had not been mentioned to the refs before the game, was ultra obscure, it was called in an extremely important game, and was called at the worst possible time in one of the most important games of the year. I'm not saying the Raiders didn't still a chance to win after the call was made, but the Raiders had the game won if that call doesn't get made.

And to top it all off, the Tuck Rule has now been repealed by the league. Not saying you or any other Pats fans posting here are bitching about the call, you guys seem to have it in proper perspective, but the ones who are - including Bellichik - can take the day off (so they'll have enough time) to kiss all of my ass.
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Old October 24 2013, 01:38 AM   #283
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The Kansas City Chiefs the only undefeated team in NFL! Woot!

Hopefully the Broncos will put an end to that in a few weeks. But first they need to figure out how to hold on to the damned ball.
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Old October 24 2013, 03:24 AM   #284
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The Kansas City Chiefs the only undefeated team in NFL! Woot!

Hopefully the Broncos will put an end to that in a few weeks. But first they need to figure out how to hold on to the damned ball.
Some defense wouldn't hurt, either....
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Old October 25 2013, 10:03 AM   #285
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According to ESPN, the Rams reached out to Brett Favre to see if he'd be interested in coming out of retirement at age 44.

He declined.
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