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Old October 16 2013, 08:06 PM   #31
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Re: Qo'NoS or Kronos????

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I always thought that Qo'noS was the homeworld and Kronos (that is, Kronos One) being the K'T'inga class battlecruiser that brought Gorkon to Federation space. I assume that they're pretty much identical in meaning, though.
Yeah, they're just different ways of spelling the Klingonese word for their homeworld.

Presumably, Qo'noS One was just named after their capital planet -- the equivalent of if the Federation ferried its president on a ship named Earth One, or if the Romulans ferried their praetor on Romulus One.
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Old October 16 2013, 10:35 PM   #32
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Re: Qo'NoS or Kronos????

Both.

Just like it's Jack Donahee and Jack Donaghee.
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Old October 16 2013, 11:01 PM   #33
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Re: Qo'NoS or Kronos????

It's like all the issues with James R. Kirk vs. James T. Kirk. Maybe Kirk's middle name was Reinhold or something, and he hated it so much he changed his middle name to Tiberius.
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Old October 16 2013, 11:40 PM   #34
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Re: Qo'NoS or Kronos????

I'm partial to the James Riberius hypothesis.
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Old October 17 2013, 01:55 AM   #35
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Re: Qo'NoS or Kronos????

Eh....I tend to think as the movie or tv version as being Kronos, whereas the novels always have Qo'Nos.
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Old October 18 2013, 04:55 AM   #36
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Re: Qo'NoS or Kronos????

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I'm partial to the James Riberius hypothesis.
No, that's Portuguese, where an 'R' at the beginning of a word is pronounced as an 'H'.
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Old October 18 2013, 10:26 AM   #37
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I'd go with Kronos, just to make a stand against random apostrophes in scifi and fantasy words.
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Old October 18 2013, 11:27 AM   #38
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Re: Qo'NoS or Kronos????

Do you mean you don't like the name of the planet V'ulc'an?
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Old October 20 2013, 11:12 PM   #39
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Re: Qo'NoS or Kronos????

The native spelling is . However, Humans tend to have trouble writing pIqaD symbols, so they've come up with various romanization systems.

The most widely accepted is that which is used by Marc Okrand, in which the planet's name is spelled Qo'noS (note that this spelling is case-sensitive; it's never spelling Qo'nos or Qo'NoS). It is perhaps etymologically connected to the word qo', which means "world". A common way of referring to the planet is juHqo', meaning "the homeworld".
In The Klingon Dictionary, Okrand uses Kronos when writing in English and Qo'noS when writing in romanized Klingon.

In klingonaase, the planet is called Klinzhai. This is not particularly strange: English-speakers call the Human homeworld Earth (or Terra). German-speakers call it die Erde, French-speakers call it la Terre and Swedish-speakers call it jorden (or, when they're feeling fancy, Tellus). Speakers of Mandarin, Japanese and Korean may all spell its name 地球, but the pronunciation varies from language to language.
Those all mean the same thing in their respective languages, but there are also languages in which the names are completely different. For example, the Navajo name nahasdzn means "our mother", the Ainu アィヌモシㇼ means "the land of the people", and the Scottish Gaelic cruinne-c means something like "the globe of the world".

Presumably, the Klingon homeworld would have had different names in different languages, and probably a number of variants variants in each language, too.

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Old October 21 2013, 07:41 AM   #40
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Re: Qo'NoS or Kronos????

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The native spelling is . However, Humans tend to have trouble writing pIqaD symbols, so they've come up with various romanization systems.

The most widely accepted is that which is used by Marc Okrand, in which the planet's name is spelled Qo'noS (note that this spelling is case-sensitive; it's never spelling Qo'nos or Qo'NoS). It is perhaps etymologically connected to the word qo', which means "world". A common way of referring to the planet is juHqo', meaning "the homeworld".
In The Klingon Dictionary, Okrand uses Kronos when writing in English and Qo'noS when writing in romanized Klingon.

In klingonaase, the planet is called Klinzhai. This is not particularly strange: English-speakers call the Human homeworld Earth (or Terra). German-speakers call it die Erde, French-speakers call it la Terre and Swedish-speakers call it jorden (or, when they're feeling fancy, Tellus). Speakers of Mandarin, Japanese and Korean may all spell its name 地球, but the pronunciation varies from language to language.
Those all mean the same thing in their respective languages, but there are also languages in which the names are completely different. For example, the Navajo name nahasdzn means "our mother", the Ainu アィヌモシㇼ means "the land of the people", and the Scottish Gaelic cruinne-c means something like "the globe of the world".

Presumably, the Klingon homeworld would have had different names in different languages, and probably a number of variants variants in each language, too.
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Old October 21 2013, 05:29 PM   #41
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Re: Qo'NoS or Kronos????

I prefer calling it the "Klingon homeworld".
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Old October 23 2013, 02:49 AM   #42
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Re: Qo'NoS or Kronos????

A similar conundrum is if the Qu'Vat colony from "Afflictin"/"Divergence" is the same as Kovat from "Blood Oath"
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Old October 23 2013, 03:10 AM   #43
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A similar conundrum is if the Qu'Vat colony from "Afflictin"/"Divergence" is the same as Kovat from "Blood Oath"
That's actually Korvat colony in Blood Oath, therefore completely different from Qu'vat.
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