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Star Trek Movies I-X Discuss the first ten big screen outings in this forum!

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Old October 19 2013, 10:31 PM   #46
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I believe there was some dialogue about the cloud dissipating as it approached Earth. Presumably, this includes the 82 AU's worth of structure.
No, they really did change the original size of V'Ger. In the original, the commander of the space station says that the cloud is over 82 AU's in diameter. The director's cut edits his line so that the "80" is removed and he only says "over 2 AU's".
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Old October 19 2013, 10:43 PM   #47
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All excellent points, guys!

However...

Does the overture need to be included on home video? Is it technically part of the movie? You don't see the other stuff, like the cigarette lighters who talk to each other!

I don't intent to beat a dead horse (where does that phrase come from?), so just tell me to shut up about it, and I will!
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Old October 19 2013, 10:46 PM   #48
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None of those people played aliens, so it doesn't really answer the question.
Some WKFs at the time did indeed play aliens. John Watts, who is mentioned a few times in Bjo's "On the Good Ship Enterprise" was an Andorian (coincidentally, the same Andorian Christopher Bennett named for my Andorian alter ego in "Ex Machina). Paula Crist, who was a popular cosplayer at conventions before the term was even invented (and later played "Baby" in "Baby: Secret of the Lost Legend") appeared as Worene, her own alien creation. Don Fanning was a Zaranite. JoAnn Christy was a Vulcan. 70s convention entrepreneur Steven Lance was a Rhaandarite.

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As to why nobody else ever wore those costumes... maybe they were constructed to fit a particular person?
Are you talking about the rubber masks/hands or Starfleet uniforms? It's not like the heads were attached to particular uniforms.

The fan extras were selected to fit the ready-made costumes at their casting call. One uniform type exception: the tiny white female jumpsuits specially made for Susan Sackett, Bjo Trimble and Louise Stange. But again, they played humans.
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Old October 19 2013, 10:49 PM   #49
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Does the overture need to be included on home video?
Motion picture completists will tell you: yes, the overture of pre-1980 movies is very much as part of the motion picture experience.

Is it technically part of the movie?
Yes, the first three minutes of Reel 1.
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Old October 19 2013, 10:53 PM   #50
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I agree, the overture should be included for completeness's sake. If you don't like it, there's always the fast-forward or chapter-ahead button.
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Old October 19 2013, 11:04 PM   #51
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I agree, the overture should be included for completeness's sake. If you don't like it, there's always the fast-forward or chapter-ahead button.
Oh, no no no...I like it fine! Like I said, it's a beautiful piece. It just never occurred to me to use it as a time to gather my popcorn and beverage!

Did Decker technically have a theme of his own?
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Old October 19 2013, 11:14 PM   #52
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No, no Decker theme.
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Did Decker technically have a theme of his own?
The piece was also known as "Love Theme from ST:TMP", so the theme is tied to his character as well. Had Decker survived into telemovies, using the old "Phase II" scripts, I'm sure he'd have ended up with a more commanding theme.
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None of those people played aliens, so it doesn't really answer the question.
Some WKFs at the time did indeed play aliens. John Watts, who is mentioned a few times in Bjo's "On the Good Ship Enterprise" was an Andorian (coincidentally, the same Andorian Christopher Bennett named for my Andorian alter ego in "Ex Machina). Paula Crist, who was a popular cosplayer at conventions before the term was even invented (and later played "Baby" in "Baby: Secret of the Lost Legend") appeared as Worene, her own alien creation. Don Fanning was a Zaranite. JoAnn Christy was a Vulcan. 70s convention entrepreneur Steven Lance was a Rhaandarite.
I have no idea who those people are. So they aren't WKFs to me.
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Old October 20 2013, 12:34 AM   #55
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Wow! There's a lot of information in this very interesting thread! I love The Motion Picture - it's one of the best of the STAR TREK features.
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Old October 20 2013, 12:42 AM   #56
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Just read through the pages and those are some great insights Christopher. Thanks for sharing.
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Old October 20 2013, 01:16 AM   #57
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Interesting to still learn new things!
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Old October 20 2013, 01:42 AM   #58
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So they aren't WKFs to me.
You didn't get around enough.
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So they aren't WKFs to me.
You didn't get around enough.
Yeah, I'm a watch the shows and movies type fan. Though I've read quite a bit of Treklit. Never really into cons or fanclubs.
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Yeah, I'm a watch the shows and movies type fan. Though I've read quite a bit of Treklit. Never really into cons or fanclubs.
Join the club!
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