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Old October 17 2013, 07:47 PM   #151
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Re: New Build, USS Vengeance from Star Trek XII

Nope, 2.68 is the latest version out, but I haven't upgraded to it yet.

You probably have 2.4.5 and 2.4.9... which are the two versions I was using up until recently.

Usually the backbuf will break if the image you used as the background got moved, or something like that. I only use that for WIP images though... anything else I composite together with Photoshop.

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Old October 17 2013, 08:55 PM   #152
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Re: New Build, USS Vengeance from Star Trek XII

Well looks like Im gonna have to add yet another version to my computer. I haven't really felt inspired lately. I think its because I have started to forget the tricks I knew to create neat renders. I don't have photoshop, so I can't really doanything to the renders outside of blender.

Does anyone know of a good image editing program...like the best freeware program?
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Old October 17 2013, 10:37 PM   #153
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Re: New Build, USS Vengeance from Star Trek XII

Yep.

GIMP is the open-source alternative to Photoshop, just like Blender is to Lightwave or Maya.

http://www.gimp.org/downloads/

Also, Paint.NET is pretty good, but doesn't do as much.

http://www.getpaint.net/

Yeah, the newer versions of Blender are a lot different, too, but don't let that scare you off. It is better, in the long run.

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Old October 18 2013, 04:18 AM   #154
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Re: New Build, USS Vengeance from Star Trek XII

Well, I got it finished tonight!

Here's a quick wallpaper I did, just to show it off.

I'll build some orthos and stuff later. What do you guys think?



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Old October 18 2013, 04:29 AM   #155
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cannot wait to use this in Vue to do some renders
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Old October 18 2013, 08:03 PM   #156
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Re: New Build, USS Vengeance from Star Trek XII

Well, I thought it looked perfect, then stupid me started comparing with a picture of the vengence.
Looks great. Fine as is in my opinion. But if you want to be perfect, A few details are off from this picture...which Im not sure if this picture is accurate or not....
http://memory-beta.wikia.com/wiki/US...ernate_reality)

What i see off is the area around the balls..the part that encases them. and the top edge of the deflector. Im trying to figure out what in the world is going on in the picture below the bridge. They kinda look like extra big windows or something. Take a look at the picture at memory alpha and tell me what you think.
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Old October 18 2013, 09:06 PM   #157
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The area below the bridge is the sensor array, not a window. Ignore the random colors.
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Old October 18 2013, 09:51 PM   #158
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Re: New Build, USS Vengeance from Star Trek XII

Yeah, it's not 100% accurate to the picture, or any of the other references.

While building it, i used the Hot Wheels model for reference, the little QMX model, the Big QMX model, and then finally screencaps. It ended up being parts of all of them.

The area beneath the bridge is weird... to me, it looks like they set it up to be mirror reflective, and all of those blue lines look like window reflections. I didn't like that, so I didn't do that on mine.

Also, the model in the movie seems to look different than the one in the above picture... it's almost like they went back and tweaked some stuff afterwards.

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Old October 18 2013, 11:08 PM   #159
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I know this maybe too much to ask, but could you do another version with the same color as the Enterprise? I really wonder what it would look like with a proper Starfleet ship color.
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Old October 18 2013, 11:31 PM   #160
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I think you have done a great job in modelling and rendering the Vengeance.

Personally, I think it is one butt ugly ship design. And why make it dark other than to show good versus evil. In the darkness of space, it won't really make any difference what color it is, unless you are close to a sun or someother light source.
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Old October 19 2013, 07:36 PM   #161
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he area beneath the bridge is weird... to me, it looks like they set it up to be mirror reflective, and all of those blue lines look like window reflections. I didn't like that, so I didn't do that on mine.
Yeah I can't blame you there. Doesn't look good. Besides, who would put a mirror on the hull of a starship, risk it getting broke and getting 7 years bad luck? Last place you need bad luck is a starship, especially if you're a redshirt.

I know this maybe too much to ask, but could you do another version with the same color as the Enterprise? I really wonder what it would look like with a proper Starfleet ship color.
It would look like a starship from star trek online. Hey if you have Blender, its easy to do. Once he releases the mesh, you can always change the colors of the surface. Thats coming from someone who sucks at meshing in blender. ^_^; One day I will learn...in the future....distant future.
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Old October 21 2013, 11:47 PM   #162
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MadMan1701A wrote: View Post
Yeah, it's not 100% accurate to the picture, or any of the other references.

While building it, i used the Hot Wheels model for reference,
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Is the Hot Wheels version have the highest nacelle placement? It looks very swan-like from all angles--not at all what I was expecting...
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Old October 22 2013, 04:06 AM   #163
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Re: New Build, USS Vengeance from Star Trek XII

Thanks guys. I do plan on doing a 3 nacelle Dreadnought version, and a traditional looking one done up as the Excelsior, NX-2000.

So, my first wallpaper with this sucks. They specular maps didn't show up at all, and the lighting was no good. So...



1920x1080:
http://madshipyard.com/WIP/STXII/Veng/Vengeance2_HD.jpg

Much better, I think.

Pubilusr, I think you are right about the Hotwheels model... I really like the swan-like look that you noticed.

Orthos and stuff later...

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Old October 22 2013, 04:21 AM   #164
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Wow, now that looks much much better. Did you switch the surface to phong or is that still lambert? Doesn't look like the same surface.
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Old October 22 2013, 04:54 AM   #165
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i dunno, i like the matte finish of the first one.

also, in the second image, jupiter and the vengeance are more obviously lit from completely different sides. nothing wrong with local lighting, but its weirding me out.
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