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Old September 4 2013, 01:33 AM   #2101
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The Hugos are voted on by attendees and members of WorldCon. If you want something else to win next year, then get your ass a membership for the next one and throw your nomination in.
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Old September 4 2013, 02:24 AM   #2102
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Being nominated for a Hugo is meaningless. Very BAD episodes of Trek have been nominated like TNG's "Encounter at Farpoint" and ENT's "A Night in Sickbay". Only winners should count!
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Old September 8 2013, 10:07 PM   #2103
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So it turns out that Mark Gatiss is playing Tycho Nestoris. That's the name of the emissary from the Iron Bank who reaches Stannis at the end of A Dance with Dragons. I'd guess that Tycho will be combined with Noho Dimittis, the Iron Bank emissary Cersei sends away in Feast-- I had forgotten they were separate characters. It may be that the Iron Bank strand is being emphasized earlier on the show than in the books, or that an awful lot of Feast material is in the latter half of season four.
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Old September 10 2013, 03:25 AM   #2104
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I imagine they'll show Tywin and/or Tyrion haggling with him, for contrast when Cersei completely messes things up the following year.

Another new casting suggesting there will be foreshadowing of A Feast For Crows elements this season: "Bronze" Yohn Royce, Lord of Runestone.
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Old September 10 2013, 01:18 PM   #2105
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Indie band Sigur Rós will appear in season 4. Musicians at Joffrey's wedding, perhaps? They're part of the Croatia filming, anyway.
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Old September 10 2013, 02:46 PM   #2106
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^ So they'll be learning how to play The Rains of Castamere, I assume?
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Old September 10 2013, 03:03 PM   #2107
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I think they're more likely to be doing a new song, though admittedly there are only a couple full numbers from the books left to adapt. But I do hope the gags about every singer performing "The Rains of Castamere" make it into the episode.
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Old September 21 2013, 12:03 PM   #2108
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In a sign of just how popular and recognised the show has become, its music and the style of the opening credits have been used in a trailer for the kids' show Ben and Holly's Little Kingdom. The trailer uses the GOT music and pans over the little kingdom they way the GOT credits pan through Westeros. Likely to be lost on B&H's target audience, I imagine (at least, I hope they're not watching GOT as well!) but will doubtless get some recognition from parents.

YouTube only has home-made recordings of the trailer so far but it's airing on Nick Jr and variants of that channel if anyone is curious.
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Old September 24 2013, 01:07 AM   #2109
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Old October 17 2013, 08:02 PM   #2110
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Another new casting: Struan Rodger as Bloodraven. Or as "Three-Eyed Raven," anyway. Rodger has done some voice acting, so it may be that he's just voicing the raven in dream sequences, but he's certainly the right physical type for Bloodraven, and it seems more likely to me that Bran will meet him by the end of the season.
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Maybe Bran in the show can finally become interesting now. Show-only people are baffled as to why I like his chapters so much in the books.
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I wonder if they will feature Coldhands in this season and, if so, will they bring back the actor who played Benjen Stark in S1?
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Maybe Bran in the show can finally become interesting now. Show-only people are baffled as to why I like his chapters so much in the books.
Yeah, they haven't done a terribly good job in the show demonstrating the power of a green seer. Aside from the Dragons and Others, Bran is the embodiment of the mysticism of this world, at least as it applies strictly to humans. I hope they start digging into his seeing and warging capabilities more this coming season, or else I fear they will be doing the character and the story's bigger picture a great disservice. As the strength of magic grows in general, I suspect it should playing a major role in the next two books. The show needs to reflect that so they don't paint themselves in a corner and have to retcon something. I'm surprised - I know GRRM is involved with the series, but I don't know why he didn't push for more mysticism in the Bran scenes, and they kind of glossed over how significant it was for him to warg into another human (Hodor).
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I wonder if they will feature Coldhands in this season and, if so, will they bring back the actor who played Benjen Stark in S1?
I suspect they'll run into Coldhands, yes. IIRC, they don't get far beyond the wall before running into him.

As for Benjen, I don't think it's been confirmed that he really is Coldhands, but I think most people agree that it probably is. Throughout Bran's interactions with him, however, Bran does not recognize him as such - I think his face is always hidden by a cloak hood or something - so they could theoretically get anyone of similar build to play Coldhands until his reveal in later seasons, once it is determined who he really is.
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Old October 17 2013, 09:49 PM   #2114
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I don't know why he didn't push for more mysticism in the Bran scenes, and they kind of glossed over how significant it was for him to warg into another human (Hodor).
Lots of magical elements from the books have been cut. The showrunners prioritise tits over magic, as a means of making the show more accessible to non-fantasy fans.

I do like this show quite a bit, but it's hard for me to discuss it without launching in to a negative rant about.. just about any element.
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I wonder if they will feature Coldhands in this season and, if so, will they bring back the actor who played Benjen Stark in S1?
I suspect they'll run into Coldhands, yes. IIRC, they don't get far beyond the wall before running into him.

As for Benjen, I don't think it's been confirmed that he really is Coldhands, but I think most people agree that it probably is. Throughout Bran's interactions with him, however, Bran does not recognize him as such - I think his face is always hidden by a cloak hood or something - so they could theoretically get anyone of similar build to play Coldhands until his reveal in later seasons, once it is determined who he really is.
Yeah, I know it's not spelt out in the books that Coldhands is Benjen. I'm just curious as to whether the show-runners are in the camp that says he is and, if so, they bring back the original actor. I agree entirely with your post. It wouldn't bother me if someone else played the role (though others may feel differently).
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