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Old October 16 2013, 09:05 PM   #1
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The Blacklist

The antihero trend built up by Breaking Bad et al. continues. This series is centered on James Spader's performance. This series obviously intends to reverse the arc, presenting Spader's Raymond Reddington first as Heisenberg, then revealing his inner Wallter White self, as his relationship to tyro profiler Elizabeth Keen is unveiled. (Probably she's his daughter.)

In episode 1, Reddington's plan led to the suicide of a mad bomber and the seizure of a weapon of mass destruction by unknown parties. In episode 2, Reddington poisoned Isabella Rossellini, a sex slave trafficker. In episode 3, Reddington shot to death a computer tech. In episode, Reddington threw a man into a vat of acid.

The universal gist of reviews I've seen is that Spader is delightful but the rest of the characters are too dull. While it is true they haven't killed anyone yet, the Tom Keene character, who seems like a fourth grade Mr. Chips, is alleged to be someone horrible, which is mildly provocative I thought.

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Old October 16 2013, 09:35 PM   #2
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^I'd say the antihero trend started long before Breaking Bad, but that's neither here nor there.

I'm enjoying this as well, because of Spader. He is just so damn good in this role, it's ridiculous. The guest actors they get to be the baddies (er...OTHER baddies) have so far been top notch. As you said, the FBI characters are all a big yawn, however, and the female lead is not terribly interesting or believable...at least not yet. I mean, how could she NOT confront her husband about the box in the floor? I find that terribly hard to swallow.

Still, watching Spader's character manipulate everyone around him so masterfully, and eliminate other evil doers in the process, is pretty darn awesome. So, I'm going to keep watching for now and see what happens
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Old October 17 2013, 02:12 AM   #3
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I am really enjoying this as well. It really feels like Spader's not even playing a character, this is just who he is. It's very convincing and draws you in. The female lead is starting to grow on me, and I am actually liking her a lot now as well. As has been said, the other characters aren't very memorable (proven by the fact that I honestly can't remember any of them right now ), but that may change over time, and it's not bothering me too much at the moment.

There are a couple of scenes that become a little difficult to believe, such as when she jabbed the pen into his neck in the first episode, but overall it's a very entertaining show.
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Old October 17 2013, 02:37 AM   #4
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If it weren't for James Spader, I wouldn't give a damn about this show.
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Old October 17 2013, 03:10 AM   #5
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Jim is cartooning it.

So much more charismatic on the Office.
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Old October 17 2013, 03:16 AM   #6
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Out of all the shows I watch that depict law enforcement and/or Government agencies, this is the only one where I really have to suspend by disbelief to watch it. To think that they'd let Spader's character roam free in between cases is a little hard to swallow.

That said, I really love this show. I think it's one of my favorite new shows of the season (along with SHIELD), I'm really interested in finding out why Reddington is so drawn to Lizzie (I'm thinking he could be her father...but that might be too cliche).

Incidentally, NBC picked this show up for a full season, so we'll at least have it for a while (unless the ratings tank really hard in the next few months).
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Old October 17 2013, 03:28 AM   #7
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Yeah I'm confused about that, I thought he was a prisoner but episodes open with him in another country making deals with criminals...
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Old October 17 2013, 03:45 AM   #8
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He has a tracking tag inside his shoulder that can only be removed surgically.

And if he removes it, the deal is off.
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Old October 17 2013, 04:03 AM   #9
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He has a tracking tag inside his shoulder that can only be removed surgically.

And if he removes it, the deal is off.
I had forgotten about that, actually.

It's been said that since he knows most of the people on the Black List through his criminal dealings, that in order to hide the fact that Reddington's working for the FBI, he is to remain his criminal activities, lest he tip someone off.

A bit hard to swallow, but like I said: for this show you really have to suspend your disbelief to enjoy it. And I enjoy it, so I must be doing something right.
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Old October 17 2013, 04:08 AM   #10
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If it weren't for James Spader, I wouldn't give a damn about this show.
This^

I do agree that Lizzie needs a personality transplant.
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Old October 17 2013, 04:36 AM   #11
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As others have said, the rest of the cast is rather a blank space. But I don't need them, I have James Spader being effing creepy. I love this show.
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Old October 17 2013, 05:55 AM   #12
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As others have said, the rest of the cast is rather a blank space. But I don't need them, I have James Spader being effing creepy. I love this show.
When he does that licking his lips, squinty eye thing I get positively creeped out.
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Old October 17 2013, 06:13 AM   #13
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If it weren't for James Spader, I wouldn't give a damn about this show.
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Ditto.

I don't mind the female lead in a blank canvas sort of way. And it's nice to see Parminder Nagra. But yes, show is a mess. And the Tom Noonan/Dollarhyde rip-off/homage was just dull.
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Yep, the other characters are decent wallpaper, but James Spader's character is the over the top chandelier that just lights up the rest of the room. I watch this show for him, and I like it.
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Old October 17 2013, 07:50 AM   #15
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James Spader is amazing in everything he does. Without him this show would be a failure. The FBI is pretty much useless, but not to a The Following level, and all boring and been there done that feel. then Spader is on the screen and it's masterful.
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