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Star Trek Movies I-X Discuss the first ten big screen outings in this forum!

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Old October 16 2013, 03:02 AM   #31
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Ridges? who cares about ridges? Of course it's Klaa. STVI was written so to get everyone on board. Adm Cartwright, who worked so hard during the whale probe crisis, rebranded as the bad guy (I'd call him Cartwright-refit); Sarek hammered into a scene to do essentially nothing just because he is Sarek; Saavik (with her name changed). Clearly Meyer wasn't very inspired and just delivered a custom order by Paramount who was scared VI wouldnt be more profitable than V.

But if anyone really has a problem with ridges, remember Worf himself changed during the TNG run and no one went "hey, who is this other Klingon -- and where's Worf?".
I did. That last forehead change in season five was a big "WTF?" for me. I didn't like it at all. I thought it was too severe. It ended up being my favorite look, though.

If you look at Kurn's appearances, you can see they'd change his forehead to match Worf's.
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Old October 16 2013, 06:57 PM   #32
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I feel bad for Capt. Klaa. He went from commanding his own ship to being a translator? That can't be a promotion in the Klingon Empire.
It was probably part of Klaa's punishment for screwing up in ST V.
I always thought that Klaa volenteered to serve as Kirk's translator. He knew Kirk as a man of honor, and they had earned each others respect by the end of the Sha Ka Re informal "conference".
Yeah he got demoted after just randomly deciding to take his ship and attack a Federation ship risking war because he's bored. I don't think even Klingon commanders have -that- much latitude.
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Old October 16 2013, 11:42 PM   #33
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It was probably part of Klaa's punishment for screwing up in ST V.
I always thought that Klaa volenteered to serve as Kirk's translator. He knew Kirk as a man of honor, and they had earned each others respect by the end of the Sha Ka Re informal "conference".
Yeah he got demoted after just randomly deciding to take his ship and attack a Federation ship risking war because he's bored. I don't think even Klingon commanders have -that- much latitude.
They have, but if they decide to make a mess they must succeed. Kruge did exactly the same thing Klaa tried but he kicked the galaxy in the nuts big time: in just one mission he blew up his informant's ship, his spy-lover, the Grissom, the Enterprise, a fucking planet, killed even his crew. A True Klingon hero. If Klingons had tear ducts I bet the Ambassador's eyes would have been moist when he demanded the extradiction of Kirk, JUSTICE!! while narrating Kruge's adventures. Kang and Kor never came close to so bold.

Klaa had a hotter first officer though. Maybe that's why he was calmer. Cost him.
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Old October 17 2013, 12:01 AM   #34
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Yeah but the difference between Krudge and Klaa was big. Krudge wanted to obtain a planet destroying super weapon that supposedly threatened the Klingon Empire. If he was successful he would've removed that threat and obtained a powerful weapon.

Klaa was just bored and decided to start some shit for no reason. Big difference. I could see Krudge's latitude being supported. Heck it was, by the Klingon ambassador in STIV. There was a threat and a purpose to it. Klaa? Heck even drunken Korrd thought it was stupid.
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Ridges? who cares about ridges? Of course it's Klaa. STVI was written so to get everyone on board.
I actually put the question to Todd Bryant at a Brisbane, Australia, convention. At the time he didn't even know that a few official books had connected his two Klingon appearances as both being Klaa, and he told the audience that the bumps were definitely different, so it was a different character. But I read an interview with him a few years later where he mentioned Klaa's demotion to translator, so it's more of a retcon.

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Yeah but the difference between Krudge and Klaa was big. Krudge...
Kruge.
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