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Old October 14 2013, 12:09 AM   #1
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Coincidence?

Jacqueline Cochran, On May 18, 1943 Cochran set a new 100 km. Speed record at 1,050.15 km/hr. During her time flying in California, she exceeded 1270 km/hr and became the first woman to break the sound barrier.

Zefram Cochrane

Is there any back story, or is it just a coincidence?
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Old October 14 2013, 12:18 AM   #2
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Re: Coincidence?

My initial guess was coincidence...but then I thought of something similar: I was reading once about earlier years of Hollywood, and ran across an intriguing bit about how Paramount once had some serial films they'd shot. The series I remember specifically were the Mazie (sp.), Annabelle and Trudy series. Those names dingle any bells?
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Old October 14 2013, 12:24 AM   #3
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During TNG, there was mention of a planet named "Archer." When TPTB were creatling the ENT series, did they take that planet into consideration went they named their lead character "Archer?"


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Old October 14 2013, 12:25 AM   #4
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Re: Coincidence?

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My initial guess was coincidence...but then I thought of something similar: I was reading once about earlier years of Hollywood, and ran across an intriguing bit about how Paramount once had some serial films they'd shot. The series I remember specifically were the Mazie (sp.), Annabelle and Trudy series. Those names dingle any bells?

Then of course you had the Stella series
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Old October 14 2013, 12:28 AM   #5
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My initial guess was coincidence...but then I thought of something similar: I was reading once about earlier years of Hollywood, and ran across an intriguing bit about how Paramount once had some serial films they'd shot. The series I remember specifically were the Mazie (sp.), Annabelle and Trudy series. Those names dingle any bells?

Then of course you had the Stella series
Forgot about that one!!
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Old October 14 2013, 01:11 AM   #6
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Roddenberry and Matt Jefferies were both pilots during WWII, so anything's possible. Gene L. Coon, who wrote the episode, was a Marine. The name could have brainstormed between them.
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Old October 14 2013, 02:02 AM   #7
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During TNG, there was mention of a planet named "Archer." When TPTB were creatling the ENT series, did they take that planet into consideration went they named their lead character "Archer?"
Captain Archer's computer file in IAMD does claim that planet is named after him.

Yeah, I know, that doesn't answer your question.
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Old October 14 2013, 06:59 AM   #8
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During TNG, there was mention of a planet named "Archer." When TPTB were creatling the ENT series, did they take that planet into consideration went they named their lead character "Archer?"
Captain Archer's computer file in IAMD does claim that planet is named after him.

Yeah, I know, that doesn't answer your question.
Archer is such a glory hog that he probably changed the Fedwiki article himself claiming that it was named for him.

It could've been named for a cartographer who first charted the system, or the survey team leader who first studied the planet, or maybe an extinct indigenous people known as the Ahr'sher which changed over time to simply become 'Archer'.
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Old October 14 2013, 07:06 AM   #9
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Re: Coincidence?

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Jacqueline Cochran, On May 18, 1943 Cochran set a new 100 km. Speed record at 1,050.15 km/hr. During her time flying in California, she exceeded 1270 km/hr and became the first woman to break the sound barrier.
I assume it's only a typo, but the correct year is 1953.

(Chuck Yeager was the first pilot to break the sound barrier in 1947.)
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Old October 14 2013, 10:09 AM   #10
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Talk about a life well lived. Jackie Cochran crammed several life-times worth into one. And who are young women offered as a role model nowadays -- Miley Cyrus? Give us a break.
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Old October 14 2013, 02:39 PM   #11
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Jacqueline Cochran, On May 18, 1943 Cochran set a new 100 km. Speed record at 1,050.15 km/hr. During her time flying in California, she exceeded 1270 km/hr and became the first woman to break the sound barrier.

Zefram Cochrane

Is there any back story, or is it just a coincidence?
A coincidence probably; but do I sense the good Mr. Cox warming up a connection for one of his fine TOS novels?
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Old October 15 2013, 02:39 AM   #12
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Jacqueline Cochran, On May 18, 1943 Cochran set a new 100 km. Speed record at 1,050.15 km/hr. During her time flying in California, she exceeded 1270 km/hr and became the first woman to break the sound barrier.
I assume it's only a typo, but the correct year is 1953.

(Chuck Yeager was the first pilot to break the sound barrier in 1947.)
Ahh, yes. Probably. I just copy/pasted the info on the site.
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Old October 15 2013, 04:46 AM   #13
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Talk about a life well lived. Jackie Cochran crammed several life-times worth into one. And who are young women offered as a role model nowadays -- Miley Cyrus? Give us a break.
A bit like saying in 1953 the only role model for young women was Marilyn Monroe. Give me a break.
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Old October 15 2013, 04:54 AM   #14
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I didn't see the word "only" anywhere in Asbo's statement. Give yourself a break?
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Old October 15 2013, 05:02 AM   #15
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I didn't see the word "only" anywhere in Asbo's statement. Give yourself a break?
No its not. But it doesn't have to be, the intent of his post is pretty clear.
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