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Old October 10 2013, 04:50 PM   #121
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Re: Guess which new show will be canceled first?

Sitcoms have fallen into this pattern that's a weird conservative version of liberalism. Like, they show things like homosexuality and nontraditional families as just normal, but apply the 1950s style of family as the ideal family for all those groups. So it's okay to be gay, so long as you don't dare deviate from the traditional family unit model and still conform to all mainstream expectations for how a family behaves.

Only difference is now you're allowed to do it with people the same gender as you.

Sitcoms build conflict basically by having one character deviate from social expectations, then realize that they should not have deviated from social expectations.

And all with a veneer of obnoxious sarcasm.
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Old October 10 2013, 05:39 PM   #122
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You bring up a very good point. It is like a 50s family with gays. While gay families and straight families can be the same, they sometimes are not. There is no longer the guy works, wife stays at home. It's really boring with the fact that now it's the guy stays home and the wife works.

You think 60 years later they would have been more creative with straight and gay families. People work more, are open to more, maybe even open relationships, divorces, no longer following social normals.

I can't stand Modern Family because it's stupid, unfunny, stereotypes. Old guy gets hot young wife, attractive wife + stupid husband, then the gay characters are like angels and they bitch and moan but at the end of the episode everything is fine. It's sickening. Add something real to it. People fight, gays aren't perfect, have fun with the characters, challenge the audience.

It's why my favorite comedies in recent years have been Community, Raising Hope and Boston Legal. All very different types of comedies.
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Old October 10 2013, 06:21 PM   #123
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All the comedies looked awful this season so I didn't even sample any. Same thing happened last season.
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Old October 10 2013, 07:31 PM   #124
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The gays on Modern Family are far from perfect.
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Old October 10 2013, 07:56 PM   #125
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In the Actors Studio, the little ginger was mocking the bear because he's "Gay for Pay" and not really gay like he is... Besides, they're named after a character from Stargate, it's not like they're grounded in reality.
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Old October 10 2013, 09:52 PM   #126
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Well, SHIELD got its full season order today.

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Old October 10 2013, 10:15 PM   #127
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It's really not that much better, adjusted for inflation, than the original Knight Rider.
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Old October 11 2013, 02:20 AM   #128
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Zombie Seeker wrote: View Post
The gays on Modern Family are far from perfect.
And worse, far from funny.
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Old October 11 2013, 03:04 AM   #129
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Guy Gardener wrote: View Post
It's really not that much better, adjusted for inflation, than the original Knight Rider.
It does have a Knight Ridery "vibe" to it.
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Old October 11 2013, 03:20 AM   #130
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bigdaddy wrote: View Post
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The gays on Modern Family are far from perfect.
And worse, far from funny.
I guess that's a matter of opinion.
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Old October 11 2013, 04:05 AM   #131
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Zombie Seeker wrote: View Post
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The gays on Modern Family are far from perfect.
And worse, far from funny.
I guess that's a matter of opinion.
Well duh, everything is.
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Old October 11 2013, 05:01 AM   #132
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Thanks for the tip.
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Old October 12 2013, 10:11 PM   #133
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Super Fun Night will be cancelled with two things happen:

1) They realize they won't be able to have a "Super Fun Night" every episode.
2) That Rebel Wilson is a one note actress, playing "Fat Amy" over and over again.
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Old October 14 2013, 01:52 AM   #134
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Looks like "We Are Men" got the ax, and they didn't even make it to a third episode. Monday "2 Broke Girls" will move to their old time-slot and Big Bang Theory (a repeat) will take the nine o'clock slot.
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Old October 14 2013, 05:05 AM   #135
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Looks like "We Are Men" got the ax, and they didn't even make it to a third episode. Monday "2 Broke Girls" will move to their old time-slot and Big Bang Theory (a repeat) will take the nine o'clock slot.
And the rerun of Big Bang Theory will probably get higher ratings than the other sitcoms on CBS that night. Kinda pathetic for CBS.
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