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Old October 11 2013, 08:20 PM   #646
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I got signed up. My annual payment for my full insurance now is 0.00 dollars a year.

After 20 years of being denied for pre existing conditions, I will have coverage.

Yay!
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Old October 11 2013, 08:23 PM   #647
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I guess you'll never figure out what there is to live for until you try to actually do it. But since you are convinced that there's nothing out there for you, enjoy your bleak existence.

The "bleak existance" is just life for families like mine. Work until you can't is what life is, and I'm not eager to start that.

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What exactly is the point of survival if you're not going to do anything with it?
What is there to do with it? I just want to read, watch tV, play video games, etc. I can do that now. Whenever I'm forced to get a job, that stuff that I currently live for becomes something I'd barely ever be able to do. So, getting a job, and survivng, means living less, but the alternative is being dead, and being a normal person I personally like being alive.
What about helping your parents out? If they're on public assistance, it's probably a struggle to have to also take care of you.
There are 4 people in my house. My parents, my younger brother, and me. Between us, even though we don't have a lot of money, we have food, shelter, electricity, etc and can even afford stuff like limited cable TV and having a small dog. We're definately not well off (our food assistance is something like several hundred dollars) but we're not going out on the street regardless of wether I get a job or not. There are obviously people far worse off than us, even if my family is fairly poor. We're poor enough to get assistance, but we're not close to homeless or desperate right now.
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Old October 11 2013, 08:25 PM   #648
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Doesn't mean your parents wouldn't appreciate some help from their son.
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Old October 11 2013, 08:29 PM   #649
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Doesn't mean your parents wouldn't appreciate some help from their son.
If things get really bad for some reason, I'll have to help. As it is, we've been in about the same financial position (with my Dad making a bit more when he could work, but still fairly similar) all my life. We've never had a lot of money, but even when we were surviving purely on my Dad's state money (my mom was unemployed for a bit) we survived without getting desperate, even though its not that much money. We're used to living at a low income.
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Old October 11 2013, 08:31 PM   #650
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I already know that the bottom is where I'll stay whenever I end up getting a job. Whatever I do, its going to be the lowest job avaliable. I have no particular skills. I'll get a job kicking and screaming against the inevitability of it, and then if I'm lucky keep the same (or similar) entry level type jobs until I'm too old to work. The only solace is that being at the bottom, it probably won't get any worse.

Anyway, you're right about one thing. I have absolutely no ambitions of ever accomplishing anything outside of surviving. Jobs aren't for accomplishing anything, atleast not the jobs I could get. They're to make sure you don't starve to death. Since thats not an issue right now, I'm not looking to ruin my life with a job yet. There is nothing I want to accomplish, even if working did accomplish anything but survival.


This is now officially the most depressing thread ever, and we've had people die here before.

You know, this is getting to be the kirk55555 show now (and I've been a part of that too), but we should get back to discussing the ACA again, preferably with people that are actually interested in learning something or accepting advice. So no more journey into the kirkian abyss of hopelessness, for it makes me weep for the future of mankind, and I'm usually not one of those people.
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Old October 11 2013, 08:46 PM   #651
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Old October 11 2013, 08:47 PM   #652
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AGreed, we have veered off topic.

But with regards to the PPACA and the US Governement shutdown, there doesn't appear to be too muh hAPENING> There have been some talks and markets have rallied a little but aside from that not much has changed.

My adive to the Republicans, is get yourself elected to a majority in Congress and have Republican President, then you can reperal the PPACA. Until then it is the law of the land, act like statesmen and stopping playing roulette with the global economy.
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Old October 11 2013, 08:49 PM   #653
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Re: Ok Trekkers, Don't Forget To Sign Up For Mandatory Obamacare Oct 1

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What exactly is the point of survival if you're not going to do anything with it?
What is there to do with it? I just want to read, watch tV, play video games, etc. I can do that now. Whenever I'm forced to get a job, that stuff that I currently live for becomes something I'd barely ever be able to do.
Hardly. Compared to school, jobs leave you with a *lot* of free time. Come home at 5pm, and there's no homework, no last minute cramming for tests....it's just you-time.

Getting into a relationship has cut into that sort of stuff a lot more than getting a job did. Not that I mind, of course. Things change.

Besides, some people get paid to read, watch TV, or play video games. For instance, the folks behind Red Vs Blue. It's kind of a niche industry but it does exist.
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Old October 11 2013, 08:50 PM   #654
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What exactly is the point of survival if you're not going to do anything with it?
What is there to do with it? I just want to read, watch tV, play video games, etc. I can do that now. Whenever I'm forced to get a job, that stuff that I currently live for becomes something I'd barely ever be able to do.
Hardly. Compared to school, jobs leave you with a *lot* of free time. Come home at 5pm, and there's no homework, no last minute cramming for tests....it's just you-time.

Besides, some people get paid to read, watch TV, or play video games. For instance, the folks behind Red Vs Blue. It's kind of a niche industry but it does exist.
Hell, I don't even leave for work until 5pm. I have the whole day to do whatever I want!

Like today, I slept in until 2 in the afternoon. JUST BECAUSE I COULD!
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Old October 11 2013, 08:55 PM   #655
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Must be nice to be able to do that, As I work shifts I invariable find myself waking up at the same time each day. Even If I'm not on to the afternoon.
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Old October 11 2013, 08:56 PM   #656
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Re: Ok Trekkers, Don't Forget To Sign Up For Mandatory Obamacare Oct 1

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But, in this instance (and in other things related to it) they seem to want to screw me over less than the Democrats. Besides, all I need to know is that the government is charging me for being alive. I don't need obamacare, I don't want it, and its still going to only cause me problems. Thats the truh of the matter for me personally, ignoring all the BS from both sides.
You really need to read-up on what "Obamacare" (the ACA) is and how it works. You're not going to be "charged for being alive" and if anything the Republicans want to screw you over more. With no income you qualify for Medicaid, you're also old enough to be covered on any future plan(s) your parents get from their employers.

The Republican's plans are pretty much for you to get sick/injured and go into severe debt to get healthy again. The ACA at the very least ensures that you're covered if something happens. It's not perfect, by any means, but it's helping a LOT of people out who previously could not get insurance due to various reasons (like preexisting conditions.) But you're not being "punished for being alive" Republicans want to "punish you for getting sick."

You qualify for Medicaid, look into it. If you had a job you'd likely qualify for it or for an inexpensive insurance plan that you can easily research on the ACA's website.

How about you learn about these things before you dismiss them entirely. And how about not taking the stand "I don't like it, so screw everyone else." There's people who can now get insurance who couldn't before because they had a preexisting condition. That's a GREAT thing for them as now they their medical expenses are being drastically reduced.

That's something to champion.
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Old October 11 2013, 08:57 PM   #657
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Must be nice to be able to do that, As I work shifts I invariable find myself waking up at the same time each day. Even If I'm not on to the afternoon.
To be fair, I don't get home from work until 4 in the morning, and by the time I wind down and get to bed it's usually 5 or 6am.

So 2am really isn't that late, but I still feel guilty as hell for doing it. I usually reserve it for Fridays.
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Old October 11 2013, 09:01 PM   #658
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Maybe you can get a job being one of those people who sits behind the glass in a building entryway for hours at a time. I've never been quite sure why they're there, to be honest, but it seems like there would be plenty of time to read or surf the internet (especially if you take a night shift), all which collecting a small paycheck.
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Old October 11 2013, 09:03 PM   #659
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Maybe you can get a job being one of those people who sits behind the glass in a building entryway for hours at a time. I've never been quite sure why they're there, to be honest, but it seems like there would be plenty of time to read or surf the internet (especially if you take a night shift), all which collecting a small paycheck.
I once had a job sitting at the front desk at a 24-hour gym during 3rd shift. I basically got paid to watch Babylon 5.
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Doesn't mean your parents wouldn't appreciate some help from their son.
If things get really bad for some reason, I'll have to help. As it is, we've been in about the same financial position (with my Dad making a bit more when he could work, but still fairly similar) all my life. We've never had a lot of money, but even when we were surviving purely on my Dad's state money (my mom was unemployed for a bit) we survived without getting desperate, even though its not that much money. We're used to living at a low income.
Do you plan on dating anyone?
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