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Old October 11 2013, 01:40 PM   #46
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The replicants could turn on the humans and hunt them across the stars.... hmmm, seems familiar.
Or the humans could have abandoned the earth and left clues in caves on where they went for the replicants to follow only to find that the humans were sending back a deadly species to kill them off.
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Old October 11 2013, 04:11 PM   #47
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My biggest problem with the "unicorn means Deckard is replicant" idea is that (according to one "clue") somehow Gaff knew exactly which thought to reference with his origami. Deckard talks earlier with Rachael about her memories of being young. She starts a story and he finishes it, knowing how the false memory goes. But Deckard daydreams at the piano (unless it really is a memory and unicorns exist in the BR universe) and Gaff even knows about that errant thought? Nah.
On a certain level, what's the difference? It wouldn't be a real memory, it would be equivalent to a false memory. It stands to reason that if they can implant false memories such as the one described by Rachael and Deckard, they can implant unicorns.
What I mean is, it's clearly not a memory in any way unless unicorns are real, so (if taken as proof that Deckard is a replicant) it implies that Tyrell Corp. not only implanted memories into Rachael and Deckard but potentially every little passing thought that runs through their mind on a daily basis. Which would make them (in my mind) even less human than the other Nexus 6 replicants.

I prefer to see the unicorn in a less prosaic light. That Deckard daydreams of a unicorn, and when later Gaff leaves a piece of origami to tell Deckard that he has been there, rather than it throwing Deckard's whole worldview into question, he sees it as one of life's wonderful little funny coincidences.

But as I say, the real beauty of it all is that there is no true answer. The director says one thing, the actor and writer say another, the audience get to decide for themselves. Some resolve to watch it again this weekend for the umpteenth time.
I think it's entirely possible that Unicorns are real in the world of 'Blade Runner'. If they can create replicant humans, owls, snakes and living teddy bears, why not a horse with a horn on it's skull?

So it could me a literal memory, or it could be implanted. There's really no way to tell. The real question here is how could Gaff possibly know what Deckard had on his mind? Maybe he didn't. Maybe Gaff has been having the same dreams because he's a replicant too?

Of course the real reason it's there is to justify Ridley using the 'Blade Runner' budget to pay for some sneaky R&D for 'Legend'.
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Old October 11 2013, 04:13 PM   #48
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I'd rather they just left the movie alone as a classic, and not potentially ruin it with a sequel.
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Old October 11 2013, 04:57 PM   #49
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Of course the real reason it's there is to justify Ridley using the 'Blade Runner' budget to pay for some sneaky R&D for 'Legend'.
The unicorn footage was edited in to Bladerunner long after both movies had left theatres.
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Old October 11 2013, 05:39 PM   #50
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Of course the real reason it's there is to justify Ridley using the 'Blade Runner' budget to pay for some sneaky R&D for 'Legend'.
The unicorn footage was edited in to Bladerunner long after both movies had left theatres.
A lot of things weren't edited into that film until years later.
Unless I'm mistaken that particular footage was still originally shot for Blade Runner and the point of the shoot was specifically so Scott could test things out before starting on 'Legend'.
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