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Star Trek Movies XI+ Discuss J.J. Abrams' rebooted Star Trek here.

View Poll Results: borg for Trek 3
yes. 38 23.90%
no. 109 68.55%
save them for ST 4 (if there is one) 12 7.55%
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Old September 30 2013, 10:39 AM   #106
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Re: Should the Borg be the villain in Trek 3?

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No. No no no no no no no. Batman!
Fixed that for you.
He would also disapprove
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Old October 2 2013, 10:54 PM   #107
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Re: Should the Borg be the villain in Trek 3?

Shouldn't that be "Na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na... Batman!"

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Old October 3 2013, 04:55 AM   #108
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No more Borg. Let's go with something original in the next movie. I'm still hoping for some kind of alien antagonist that's not humanoid or even bipedal. Something like Tholians or Species 8472 but not exactly those races.
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Old October 3 2013, 08:09 AM   #109
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The Borg Queen assimilates KHAN!!
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Old October 3 2013, 08:29 AM   #110
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Everything can be done to death, as many have put it. A lot of the inherent strengths of The Borg as an adversary were washed away over the years. The Borg however did have an impact in their heyday and I believe they've laid fallow for long enough - at least long enough to forget about the Borg Queen conversing with her drones, Unimatrix Zero and transphasic torpedoes.

However, strip them back to their original concept and - with a significant enough budget to fully realise what an horrific force of nature they can be - I'm in. At their best, The Borg are a fantastic adversary - regardless of which Captain is in the chair.
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Old October 3 2013, 10:17 AM   #111
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Everything can be done to death, as many have put it. A lot of the inherent strengths of The Borg as an adversary were washed away over the years. The Borg however did have an impact in their heyday and I believe they've laid fallow for long enough - at least long enough to forget about the Borg Queen conversing with her drones, Unimatrix Zero and transphasic torpedoes.

However, strip them back to their original concept and - with a significant enough budget to fully realise what an horrific force of nature they can be - I'm in. At their best, The Borg are a fantastic adversary - regardless of which Captain is in the chair.
The original concept has no chance with these authors. If you complain about the introduction of the Borg Queen, you surely will not want to see what Orci & Co come up with.
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Old October 3 2013, 10:48 AM   #112
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Re: Should the Borg be the villain in Trek 3?

The original concept of the borg was inherently limited - with them, you can only do a battlestar galactica story (defeat after defeat with no happy ending - depressing/boring) or you can show them being defeated AKA having significant chinks in their armour.

And if you want to use the borg as more than a monolithic/simplistic antagonist fit for only a few horror-themed episodes, you will have to explore what makes the borg tick and how they tick - meaning, you will have to lose their hitchcockian unknowability.
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Old October 3 2013, 11:13 AM   #113
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I want to see Uhura assimilated, MADE INTO THE QUEEN and Spock with a broken, shattered heart. And maybe he has to go after her. And, like, choose. I want FANFIC baby on screen with lensfare kthxbye.
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Old October 4 2013, 07:15 AM   #114
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I want to see Uhura assimilated
It would be one way of getting rid of NuUhura I suppose
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Old October 5 2013, 11:31 AM   #115
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Everything can be done to death, as many have put it. A lot of the inherent strengths of The Borg as an adversary were washed away over the years. The Borg however did have an impact in their heyday and I believe they've laid fallow for long enough - at least long enough to forget about the Borg Queen conversing with her drones, Unimatrix Zero and transphasic torpedoes.

However, strip them back to their original concept and - with a significant enough budget to fully realise what an horrific force of nature they can be - I'm in. At their best, The Borg are a fantastic adversary - regardless of which Captain is in the chair.
The original concept has no chance with these authors. If you complain about the introduction of the Borg Queen, you surely will not want to see what Orci & Co come up with.
Regrettably, I agree.
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Old October 10 2013, 01:39 AM   #116
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Re: Should the Borg be the villain in Trek 3?

With the current marketability of everything zombies, the Borg actually wouldn't surprise me a bit.

They could easily make a story that connects the nuTrek crew to the Borg. Find a stable wormhole to the DQ that allows interaction and travel...and then destroy it in the end. Done. They could make a lot of money too with the Borg already being a known commodity in pop culture. And again, the zombie angle could make them a killing.


But I'd much rather see a Doomsday Machine story with some Klingons mixed in. It would combine an excellent (and big!) sci-fi Trek concept with the well-established JJ-villain they've already laid the foundation for developing.
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Old October 10 2013, 06:27 AM   #117
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Re: Should the Borg be the villain in Trek 3?

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No. No no no no no no no. Batman!
Fixed that for you.
Or, for The Vicar of Dibbley fans: No. No no no no no no no. Yes.
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Old October 10 2013, 02:54 PM   #118
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They do have a Doomsday machine that goes after the Borg in the novel Vendetta by Peter David. Just replace the TNG crew with the TOS crew
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Old October 10 2013, 10:41 PM   #119
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With the current marketability of everything zombies, the Borg actually wouldn't surprise me a bit.

They could easily make a story that connects the nuTrek crew to the Borg. Find a stable wormhole to the DQ that allows interaction and travel...and then destroy it in the end. Done. They could make a lot of money too with the Borg already being a known commodity in pop culture. And again, the zombie angle could make them a killing.


But I'd much rather see a Doomsday Machine story with some Klingons mixed in. It would combine an excellent (and big!) sci-fi Trek concept with the well-established JJ-villain they've already laid the foundation for developing.
Don't even need the DQ Borg. Just have some more left overs from the First Contact invasion (see: Enterprise), or human created Borg that result from a medical experiment gone wrong--if you want to push the Zombie angle.
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Old October 12 2013, 12:55 AM   #120
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No. The Borg are TNGs biggest Ace in the hole, they are its best chance for at least one rebooted big screen outing. Hell, done correctly they may squeeze a trilogy out of them alone.
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