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Old October 9 2013, 02:36 AM   #196
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Re: The Continuity and Serialization of Voyager

Neelix probably had more cross-training knowledge than Harry seemed to, so he easily could have been made a Lieutenant or Lt. Commander. And Seven was the equivalent of a civilian with a bridge duty station. Voyager could have easily wound up looking like a small mom & pop store where everyone working there is from the same family and has an executive title.
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Old October 9 2013, 02:37 AM   #197
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But who is the Pop?
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Old October 9 2013, 03:03 AM   #198
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Pop Janeway, of course.
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Old October 9 2013, 03:09 AM   #199
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Rank has nothing to do with technical skill.

A good officer should be able to be planted into any department and thrive.

It's about (human) resource management.

How many crew/officers your superiors think that you're competent enough to give orders to/take responsibility for.

Compare it to learning to juggle.

Petty officers can juggle 3 balls, Ensigns can juggle 5 balls, and way up the top of the command pyramid there are admirals juggling a dozen working turned on chainsaws.
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Old October 9 2013, 03:10 AM   #200
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I would be totally fail in starfleet.
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Old October 9 2013, 03:17 AM   #201
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Methinks 90 percent of Starfleet is in Security, admin and catering, just like in the real military (in peace time.).
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Old October 9 2013, 03:23 AM   #202
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Do they need catering when there's a replicator in every room?
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Old October 9 2013, 03:33 AM   #203
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You think replicators just "work" without elbow grease?

Constantly sourcing new steams of biomatter, making sure that everyone is eating right and not making bombs or getting hammered?
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Old October 9 2013, 03:40 AM   #204
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Okay but that's an engineering trade, not catering.

As to the eating right I suspect the real magic of replicators is that everything you eat is perfectly balanced nutrition whether its a steak or an ice cream. Nothing has more fat or badness.
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Old October 9 2013, 04:06 AM   #205
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Petty officers can juggle 3 balls, Ensigns can juggle 5 balls, and way up the top of the command pyramid there are admirals juggling a dozen working turned on chainsaws.
On the USS Voyager though, all the men have to ask Janeway if they can have their balls back.
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Old October 9 2013, 04:40 AM   #206
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If they want more balls, or just want to re-up to the correct number of balls after an incident, there's a pill they can get from sickbay to grow some more.
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Old October 9 2013, 05:31 AM   #207
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Re: The Continuity and Serialization of Voyager

This conversation has gotten really disturbing.

I've just finished Persistence of Vision, and have to say that I wish the show had revisited Janeway's Gothic noir holonovel one last time to finish it up instead of it just being abandoned, but the events of the episode at least provided a perfect excuse for abandoning it from an in-story perspective.

I wish we'd actually seen Harry's hallucination of Libby instead of him just talking about it, but that's neither here nor there.

B'Elanna's hallucinated tryst with Chakotay added an interesting layer to her character even if it wasn't ever expanded on any further, and I liked her conversation with Janeway at the end of the episode as well.

One other thing I noticed and is that, although the Admiral Paris role was recast for Pathfinder and subsequent episodes, the new actor, Richard Herd, is almost a dead-ringer for the original actor, Warren Munson, who appears in this episode.

It was also nice to see Kes' telepathic abilities get some 'play' again, although if you'd seen this episode without having seen at least Time and Again, you'd be lacking the proper context for said abilities, making this episode another instance of actual story content belying the concept of episodes being able to be aired out-of-order.

Switching gears back to Partuition for a second, I wish that episode had included an explanation for why Janeway had her hair in an entirely different style than in the episodes that preceded and follow it, but do think it creates a nice little bit of what was more than likely 'unintentional continuity' since it gives you a 'preview' of sorts for her later-series hairstyle.

One last bit of continuity-related commentary on PoV: even without it being 'telegraphed' in any way, the teaser reveal of B'Elanna and Harry trying to work with the ship's holo-matrix to let him appear in key areas other than Sickbay is a nice bit of continuity hearkening back to Projections.
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Old October 9 2013, 05:46 AM   #208
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McCoy grew a new Kidney with a pill in 20 minutes.

But they went no further with the satellite emitters, and even after the Killing Game, they pulled everything down locking the Doctor down to the same restricted mobility zones.
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Old October 9 2013, 06:01 AM   #209
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I'm watching the first act of Tattoo, and Chakotay and Janeway's conversation has me wondering why they wouldn't have been aware of the discoveries made during the events of The Chase.

I do wish Chakotay's home colony had been referred to by name (Dorvan V), but the description is succinct enough to still count as a nice bit of reference even without the name being said.
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Old October 9 2013, 06:35 AM   #210
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What if you took that pill and you already had two kidneys. Would you get another one.

I would have liked it if Trek had more about colony worlds. Bab 5 was interesting in showing the divisions between Mars and Earth and how colony world peoples were often very different. It was way too homogenous in Star Trek.
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