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Old October 8 2013, 08:57 PM   #181
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Re: The Continuity and Serialization of Voyager

I've never thought of 'JOOC' as being text-speak'; it's just a standard abbreviation that I use both online and in every-day life.

Regarding the conversation I opened up regarding Harry, I'm not sure I want to disrupt the flow of my current Voyager viewing to 'check' things re: Nightingale, so I'm going to defer to common wisdom for now, although I will say that, through the events of Partuition, Harry's 'role' has actually been quite prominent in terms of how he's been utilized, having been more or less a constant feature on away missions and a prominent 'voice' when it comes to resolving problems, which I happen to think belies the 'minority' of his physical rank. Time will tell if this continues.
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Old October 8 2013, 09:25 PM   #182
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It was always sort of odd that even some of the provisional ranked Maquis were Harry's superiors and could give him orders. Even Seven, with no rank at all, seemed to order him around but that might have just been her forceful personality. Too bad he didn't comply with the "Take off your clothes" command.
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Old October 8 2013, 09:28 PM   #183
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Another huge piece of this to consider is the level of acting bringing the character to life (or draining the life out of the character). In many cases that has a lot to do with how the writers use (or don't use) the characters. It can also have an impact on how the viewers perceive the importance of the character's role among other things.
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Old October 8 2013, 10:12 PM   #184
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It was always sort of odd that even some of the provisional ranked Maquis were Harry's superiors and could give him orders. Even Seven, with no rank at all, seemed to order him around but that might have just been her forceful personality. Too bad he didn't comply with the "Take off your clothes" command.
To be fair, Seven would order Janeway around.
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Old October 8 2013, 11:00 PM   #185
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Here is another example where voyager annoyed me with lack of continuity, when kes left in the very next episode there is no mention of her at all it's as if she was never there to begin with. Compare with DS9 when jadzia left they mentioned her frequently throughout season 7.
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Old October 8 2013, 11:37 PM   #186
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Not even Neelix seemed to miss her, though he was already over his breakup with that little teasing Ocampa bitch. Everyone became infatuated with Seven of Boob.
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Old October 8 2013, 11:50 PM   #187
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Ethan said in an interview that Neelix was into Janeway.

If you look at his whiskers when he's telling Q that Janeway is to good for him, you can tell that he thinks that she's too good for himself too, which Q finds hilarious that the Kitchenrat wants to mount the Captain.
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Old October 9 2013, 12:41 AM   #188
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Everyone is into Janeway.
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Old October 9 2013, 12:50 AM   #189
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Here is another example where voyager annoyed me with lack of continuity, when kes left in the very next episode there is no mention of her at all it's as if she was never there to begin with. Compare with DS9 when jadzia left they mentioned her frequently throughout season 7.
That's not really a lack of continuity. After Billy died on BSG, nobody mentioned him again, but no-one has ever claimed that BSG had no continuity.
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Old October 9 2013, 01:05 AM   #190
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Roslin looks at his photo at some point towards the end of the series.
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Old October 9 2013, 01:37 AM   #191
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Roslin looks at his photo at some point towards the end of the series.
You're right. My point still stands, though.

Also, Kes made a return appearance in Fury.
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Old October 9 2013, 01:38 AM   #192
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Lynx will now appear!

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Old October 9 2013, 01:47 AM   #193
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Lynx will now appear!

Yes, Fury is like the Batman spotlight for Lynx.

And I'm not into Janeway, sorry.

But seriously... how narrow minded are some people about being promoted? You're stranded years away from home and of all the things Kim has to bitch about, he's whining about his rank?

It doesn't matter when there's no higher -positions- to go with the rank. Janeway was right to keep everyone in their positions. You can be freaking Captain and it doesn't matter if everyone else on the ship are a bunch of admirals except you all look silly with your play ranks. The only two people she promoted was Tuvok... I think mainly to make him undisputed third in command, and Paris... after she made her point about launching a terrorist attack is bad. Or to just piss Harry off, both are valid reasons.
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Old October 9 2013, 02:02 AM   #194
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And I'm not into Janeway, sorry.
I meant everybody on Voyager.

I realize some earthbound folk have yet to be enlightened
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Old October 9 2013, 02:04 AM   #195
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"Batsignal"

Fury was a stunt, probably to quell slander about their discontinuity. A stunt is not real life, it's fake effort for a prearrange single moment in time.

Almost 30 people died or "left" on camera (I counted once.).

Despite the Doctor's ramping, Kes was the CMO, and Tom Paris after her, with their nursing/medic qualifications.

If Kim had spent a year or two training to be a REAL Doctor, or even a Chef... He would have been a full Lieutenant, in charge of a larger department with more responsibility.

When Chell took over Neelix's full time Job, who do you think then did Chell's old full time job?

The bad thing that Janeway must have been doing was consolidating duties and job titles, therefore giving the higher ranks more work becuase the lower ranks still needed to an awful lot of unavoidable grunt work they couldn't be promoted away from.
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