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View Poll Results: Did you like the Spock Prime scene?
Liked it 35 51.47%
Didn't like it 33 48.53%
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Old October 7 2013, 06:41 AM   #31
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Re: Do you like the Spock Prime "Phone a friend" scene?

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My point is that some people say TPTB should have done A instead of B, implying that A would have received wider approval than B, when the likelihood is that the only thing that would have changed would have been the nature of the complaints.

NuSpock contacts PrimeSpock = a contrived, cheap cameo
NuSpock doesn't contact PrimeSpock = NuSpock has this unique resource that might be able to provide insight and he's -not- using it?
I disagree with that. I think people would just assume that Spock Prime is trying to prevent future knowledge from influencing this new timeline, so he's keeping everything he knows to himself. Temporal Prime Directive.
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Old October 7 2013, 08:51 AM   #32
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Re: Do you like the Spock Prime "Phone a friend" scene?

DonIago wrote: View Post
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My point is that some people say TPTB should have done A instead of B, implying that A would have received wider approval than B, when the likelihood is that the only thing that would have changed would have been the nature of the complaints.

NuSpock contacts PrimeSpock = a contrived, cheap cameo
NuSpock doesn't contact PrimeSpock = NuSpock has this unique resource that might be able to provide insight and he's -not- using it?
Which is exactly why it should've been a clean reboot. Having that tie to the prime universe cheapens the whole new universe.
Except that a lot of people like the idea that the timeline diverged from what it was "supposed" to be. Myself included.
And even with a clean reboot some people would complain about how it was done..that it went too far or not far enough or whatever. Whatever approach TBTB took there would be people complaining about it. In the end TPTB should tell the tale they way they see best and let the chips fall where they may.
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Old October 7 2013, 09:35 AM   #33
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Did you think it was clever or did you think it was cheesy? Did it add to the film or did it completely take you out of it? Just a basic survey.
The two options are too extreme. I didn't mind, but I would've prefered if they had steered clear of Spock Prime after ST09.
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Old October 7 2013, 12:04 PM   #34
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Re: Do you like the Spock Prime "Phone a friend" scene?

Just what useful information could Old Spock have given him?

"His pattern seems to suggest 2-dimensional thinking. Now does that help you in any way?"

"He has a temper problem and can be easily riled up. Oh, just like you."

"We beat him by shooting his ship to pieces. Like he just did with yours."

"We gave him Phasers instead of Genesis! Give him torpedoes instead of torpedoes!"
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Old October 7 2013, 01:27 PM   #35
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"His secret weapon is babies. If he's got a baby onboard, the scene will be deleted to get a lower rating. So watch out for babies."
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Old October 7 2013, 01:39 PM   #36
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Re: Do you like the Spock Prime "Phone a friend" scene?

It seemed pretty lazy. And I found it out of character that Spock regarded Khan as the greatest threat they ever faced. I don't think that from a logical standpoint, that's particularly true.
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Old October 7 2013, 01:50 PM   #37
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Did you think it was clever or did you think it was cheesy? Did it add to the film or did it completely take you out of it? Just a basic survey.
The two options are too extreme.
Too extreme? Good thing I didn't ask "Love it" or "Hate it" or you'd be reporting me to a mod.
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Old October 7 2013, 02:19 PM   #38
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It seemed pretty lazy. And I found it out of character that Spock regarded Khan as the greatest threat they ever faced. I don't think that from a logical standpoint, that's particularly true.
He might have had a lapse in logic, considering Khan killed him. The human side, and all that.
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Old October 7 2013, 02:33 PM   #39
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Pure fan service. Would the writers have written a scene in which he contacts Prime-Spock about a bad guy called Nebulon or somthing?

nu-Spock "Hey, did you ever run into Nebulon?"
prime-Spock "No."
nu-Spock "Oh."
prime-Spock "..."
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Old October 7 2013, 02:39 PM   #40
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Indeed. nuSpock only phoned OldSpock because he watched TWOK and knew OldSpock had met him. "4th wall breach imminent, Captain!"
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Old October 7 2013, 02:41 PM   #41
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I was hoping nuSpock would show Spock a picture of Harrison and Spock would say, 'This man is a fraud, Khan was a Sikh'
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Old October 7 2013, 03:57 PM   #42
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I was hoping nuSpock would show Spock a picture of Harrison and Spock would say, 'This man is a fraud, Khan was a Sikh'
If Khan were a Sikh, he'd have had a beard and no waxed chest. Marla didn't have a clue what she was talking about.
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Old October 7 2013, 04:31 PM   #43
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I was hoping nuSpock would show Spock a picture of Harrison and Spock would say, 'This man is a fraud, Khan was a Sikh'
If Khan were a Sikh, he'd have had a beard and no waxed chest. Marla didn't have a clue what she was talking about.
And every Catholic only has sex after marriage.
And every Muslim doesn't drink alcohol.
And every Nazi had blue eyes and blond hair.
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Old October 7 2013, 04:37 PM   #44
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JarodRussell wrote: View Post
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I was hoping nuSpock would show Spock a picture of Harrison and Spock would say, 'This man is a fraud, Khan was a Sikh'
If Khan were a Sikh, he'd have had a beard and no waxed chest. Marla didn't have a clue what she was talking about.
And every Catholic only has sex after marriage.
And every Muslim doesn't drink alcohol.
And every Nazi had blue eyes and blond hair.
Yes, one can be a bad Sikh, shave and not wear a turban, but Khan would never have been recognized as a Sikh on-sight appearing as he did.
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Old October 7 2013, 04:38 PM   #45
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Re: Do you like the Spock Prime "Phone a friend" scene?

Choice 1: Call for help.
Choice 2: Call Spock Prime and ask him who this 'Khan' guy is.
Bonus Choice!: After Spock Prime tells you who this 'Khan' guy is, ask him to call for help.
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