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View Poll Results: Did you like the Spock Prime scene?
Liked it 35 51.47%
Didn't like it 33 48.53%
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Old October 6 2013, 09:20 PM   #16
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Re: Do you like the Spock Prime "Phone a friend" scene?

I loved it. It was infinitely better in every way than watching Spock google Khan, or an equivalent to the "Space Seed" briefing scene.

Plus, it answered one of the big questions left over from the '09 movie - what becomes of Old Spock's future knowledge? We now know he's sworn to secrecy... well, unless something really important comes up

(I just wish we'd gotten Greg's Old Spock-focused novel The Hazard of Concealing in between movies!)
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Old October 6 2013, 10:11 PM   #17
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Re: Do you like the Spock Prime "Phone a friend" scene?

Chemahkuu wrote: View Post

Jesus, does nobody have a job or social life at the moment?
Come on, man - that was uncalled-for.

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Jesus, does nobody have a job or social life at the moment?
Yes. I do. Do you?
And the more judicious response to the question would have been to leave it unanswered.
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Old October 6 2013, 10:18 PM   #18
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Re: Do you like the Spock Prime "Phone a friend" scene?

As nice as it is to see Nimoy again, they really should have done a better job writing him into the movie other than "I have sworn a solemn vow never to discuss my timeline. But since you are asking, I'll make an exception. Just this once."

Honestly, since the plan is supposedly to do a trilogy, they should have left Spock Prime out of STID thereby making his appearance in the third movie all the more special and profound.
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Old October 6 2013, 11:47 PM   #19
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Re: Do you like the Spock Prime "Phone a friend" scene?

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Wouldn't it be more incompetent -not- to at least try to find out whether SpockPrime knew anything about Khan?

As I said above, in a worst-case scenario Our Heroes have nothing to lose.
Yea, shortly after the release of ST'09, so many fans were debating it was Spock-Prime's duty to rattle off everything he knows about BIG dangers that might happen. So, if they didn't go back to the well at some point, there would be complaints that Spock-Prime should've been asked. This way, they addressed it, and showed it had little to no impact (IE: "There, We've done it, don't expect us to go there in STXIII or beyond")
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Old October 6 2013, 11:57 PM   #20
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Re: Do you like the Spock Prime "Phone a friend" scene?

As I've said before, TPTB are seemingly in an unfortunate situation where anything they do will generate complaints. Kobayashi Maru indeed.
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Old October 7 2013, 04:04 AM   #21
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Oh the poor poor TPTB. Why can't us damn fans just stfu and uncritically lap up everything they deem to give us?
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Old October 7 2013, 04:31 AM   #22
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Re: Do you like the Spock Prime "Phone a friend" scene?

Yes, that's exactly what I'm suggesting.
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Old October 7 2013, 04:33 AM   #23
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As I've said before, TPTB are seemingly in an unfortunate situation where anything they do will generate complaints.
Unlike anyone else who has ever worked on Trek? (Or any other TV show, film, play, album, etc for that matter.)
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Old October 7 2013, 04:34 AM   #24
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It's always nice to see Nimoy again. I think he wanted to appear but I'm going to guess he probably has health problems and probably can't appear "live" for too long. I've noticed he had very short parts or 'phoned in' scenes in the latter parts of Fringe also.

I'm going with "like" on this. I think this should probably be the last Spock cameo, however. I'm sure the next movie will feature a cameo from someone else (my wild guess is going to be Stewart).
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Old October 7 2013, 04:36 AM   #25
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I can't say I cared for it. It was just forced and really didn't add anything beyond shoehorning a Nimoy scene into the plot and providing exposition on how badass Khan is as if the scene where he kicked Klingon ass didn't establish that.
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Old October 7 2013, 04:54 AM   #26
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As I've said before, TPTB are seemingly in an unfortunate situation where anything they do will generate complaints. Kobayashi Maru indeed.
Well, that's generally how it works for every single thing in the universe, yeah. Fans aren't a monolithic entity with a singular opinion. They're millions of different people who like and dislike different things.
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Old October 7 2013, 05:35 AM   #27
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Re: Do you like the Spock Prime "Phone a friend" scene?

My point is that some people say TPTB should have done A instead of B, implying that A would have received wider approval than B, when the likelihood is that the only thing that would have changed would have been the nature of the complaints.

NuSpock contacts PrimeSpock = a contrived, cheap cameo
NuSpock doesn't contact PrimeSpock = NuSpock has this unique resource that might be able to provide insight and he's -not- using it?
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Old October 7 2013, 05:47 AM   #28
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My point is that some people say TPTB should have done A instead of B, implying that A would have received wider approval than B, when the likelihood is that the only thing that would have changed would have been the nature of the complaints.

NuSpock contacts PrimeSpock = a contrived, cheap cameo
NuSpock doesn't contact PrimeSpock = NuSpock has this unique resource that might be able to provide insight and he's -not- using it?
Which is exactly why it should've been a clean reboot. Having that tie to the prime universe cheapens the whole new universe.
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Old October 7 2013, 06:32 AM   #29
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Re: Do you like the Spock Prime "Phone a friend" scene?

Yes of course I like it, who would have thought we would get one last chance to see Nimoy as Spock?
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Old October 7 2013, 06:33 AM   #30
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Re: Do you like the Spock Prime "Phone a friend" scene?

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My point is that some people say TPTB should have done A instead of B, implying that A would have received wider approval than B, when the likelihood is that the only thing that would have changed would have been the nature of the complaints.

NuSpock contacts PrimeSpock = a contrived, cheap cameo
NuSpock doesn't contact PrimeSpock = NuSpock has this unique resource that might be able to provide insight and he's -not- using it?
Which is exactly why it should've been a clean reboot. Having that tie to the prime universe cheapens the whole new universe.
Except that a lot of people like the idea that the timeline diverged from what it was "supposed" to be. Myself included.
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