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Old October 6 2013, 09:22 PM   #346
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"Mountain of Trouble" not impossible.

Intolerance and abuse from the student body AFTER admittance.

You can't get into a mountain of trouble if you can't even get in.
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Old October 6 2013, 09:48 PM   #347
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If he can act in a serious role, I'd have no problem with it. I don't think he'd be LES Jewish, but the socioeconomic background that gave rise to Ben Grimm probably doesn't exist in a modern New York and could use a bit of an update.
There's a longstanding Ethiopian Jewish community, so he could be from there.
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Old October 6 2013, 10:13 PM   #348
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Sure, he could be Jewish, but the key was the part about him being part of the Lower East Side Jewish community, which was poor, working class, tough, etc. The African American community in the United States as a whole is probably closer to that spirit than the Ethiopian community. I don't think it's his religious beliefs themselves that's important.
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Old October 6 2013, 10:41 PM   #349
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You know how Jennifer Alba is Latino and Chris Evans isn't?

Sometimes the creation of family is complicated and whacky.
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Old October 7 2013, 06:06 AM   #350
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Sure, he could be Jewish, but the key was the part about him being part of the Lower East Side Jewish community, which was poor, working class, tough, etc. The African American community in the United States as a whole is probably closer to that spirit than the Ethiopian community. I don't think it's his religious beliefs themselves that's important.
Jack Kirby was Jewish (as was Lee, but it was Kirby putting himself into Grimm), so they should keep that. And I meant he should be an American with Ethiopian ancestry.
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Old October 8 2013, 12:23 AM   #351
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Jack Kirby is Ethiopian?

I understood your point. My point is there was more to growing up in the culture that Jack Kirby grew up in that he represented in Ben Grimm than just the name. An Ethiopian-American Jewish Ben Grimm isn't quite the same thing.
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Old October 8 2013, 01:29 AM   #352
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Seems to me like there's a lot of black muscle characters in sci-fi media, I think Reed would be more interesting than Ben if they were to go that route with the casting.
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Old October 8 2013, 01:39 AM   #353
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Here's a driving force you can't get away from.

Ben's Uncle married a hot young trophy wife.

Little Benny spent his youth trying to work his way through all these conflicted incestuous thoughts about Aunt Petunia.
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Old October 8 2013, 02:30 AM   #354
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Seems to me like there's a lot of black muscle characters in sci-fi media, I think Reed would be more interesting than Ben if they were to go that route with the casting.
I agree. Although I didn't like the actual writer of the recent Firestorm, I thought they did a very nice job of making Ronnie the jock and Jason the intellectual.

There is no reason why the new FF shouldn't take a similar approach.
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Old October 8 2013, 12:43 PM   #355
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Seems to me like there's a lot of black muscle characters in sci-fi media, I think Reed would be more interesting than Ben if they were to go that route with the casting.
True, but we have a specific actor who wants to play a specific character. So casting him for that character wouldn't be the same thing as simply casting a "black muscle character."
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Old October 8 2013, 02:39 PM   #356
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I guess I was thinking in more general terms but Terry Crews is an interesting character if he wants it and is right for the part then go for it.
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Old October 9 2013, 11:39 PM   #357
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‘Fantastic Four’: Actors and Actresses Lining Up for Roles

Sources tell Variety that Kit Harington, Jack O’Connell and Miles Teller are in line to get test offers to read for the role of Richards while Saoirse Ronan, Kate Mara and Margot Robbie are being tested for Storm. As of right now Michael B. Jordan is the only name being mentioned as a possibility to play Johnny Storm, aka the Human Torch, but that could still change.
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Old October 10 2013, 12:21 AM   #358
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From the actors suggested...it seems like they're going the Ultimate Fantastic Four route.
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Old October 10 2013, 12:23 AM   #359
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So is Saoirse Ronan's name going to come up any time a major movie is looking for a young woman now?
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^ She's a rising superstar.
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