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Old October 4 2013, 10:10 PM   #16
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Re: First Trailer for "Jack Ryan: Shadow Recruit" drops

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I like Chris Pine, and I like Kenneth Branagh, and Kevin Costner is growing on me as he ages. This looks like it may be an entertaining movie, so the odds are that I'll see it.

I have no idea what this has to do with Jack Ryan or Tom Clancy, though.
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Old October 4 2013, 11:29 PM   #17
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Re: First Trailer for "Jack Ryan: Shadow Recruit" drops

Why do they feel the need to "actionize" a character most of the general audience doesn't even remember?

Go out on the street and ask people who Jack Ryan is as opposed to James Bond/Jason Bourne or Ethan Hawke (might need to mention Tom Cruise for people to get that one).

Jack Ryan was never a big franchise so you can't bank on that name alone so what's the point if you are going to violate the character and turn him into Jason Bourne light?

I don't get studio CEO thinking at all.. they apparently twisted the character so much he's not Jack Ryan anymore but generic young guy who gets to save the world.

Maybe the trailer is misleading and i'm doing the movie injustice and these are the only action sequences in an otherwise good spy thriller but i somehow doubt it. Characters nowadays don't feel real if they can't kick ass once in a while, don't they? Can't have a desk jockey save the world through brilliant intelligence work and thinking ahead
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Old October 5 2013, 02:31 AM   #18
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Re: First Trailer for "Jack Ryan: Shadow Recruit" drops

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FZtVfmTZftk

Same trailer, but in HD.
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Old October 7 2013, 02:01 AM   #19
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Re: First Trailer for "Jack Ryan: Shadow Recruit" drops

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I don't get studio CEO thinking at all.
Tinker, Tailor, Soldier, Spy: $80m worldwide gross.

Mission: Impossible - Ghost Protocol: $694m worldwide gross.


And now you know.
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Old October 7 2013, 02:58 AM   #20
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I was just about to say, when is George Smiley: Ghost Protocol coming out?
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Old October 7 2013, 05:47 AM   #21
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So I take it the movie takes place in Russia and not the USSR? No USSR no viewer here?
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Old October 7 2013, 07:46 AM   #22
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I think it looks like it could be pretty good. I didn't get the sense that they were turning Jack Ryan into Jason Bourne or anyone else like that; the fight scene in the beginning looked more like Ryan was a guy just pushing himself to the limit to survive, not a highly-trained killing machine like Bourne.

The rest of the trailer made it look like a pretty standard thriller. It doesn't even look like Ryan takes part in a ton of action scenes (outside of that one bit at the end). I don't think this is going to be a huge issue.
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Old October 7 2013, 01:15 PM   #23
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Re: First Trailer for "Jack Ryan: Shadow Recruit" drops

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I don't get studio CEO thinking at all.
Tinker, Tailor, Soldier, Spy: $80m worldwide gross.

Mission: Impossible - Ghost Protocol: $694m worldwide gross.


And now you know.
But as i also said it's different if your main star/character is Tom Cruise in a well established, current franchise and if your character is Jack Ryan who's been played by A list actors of their time (well, Harrison Ford is maybe still A List) but the movies are quite older, basically 90s movies which i like and maybe you too but the general audience may have already forgotten.

It just shows how much business thinking there is and how simple the formula actually is. Take Hot, young actor (Pine), give it some cool action scenes and try to ressurect an old franchise to appeal to older viewers and get them into seats.

It doesn't matter if you have twisted the character the movie shows into oblivion because no one cares apart from some idiots on message boards, right?

I may not see this in theatres as it looks too generic for me but i'll still catch it somewhere, it's just that the Jack Ryan is not needed at all if you're going to ignore his background (and i say this without having actually seen this movie so my opinion might change).
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Old October 7 2013, 05:47 PM   #24
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Fun trailer, but I sort of wish they hadn't spoiled Keira Knightley's character.
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Old October 7 2013, 09:49 PM   #25
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Go out on the street and ask people who Jack Ryan is as opposed to James Bond/Jason Bourne or Ethan Hawke (might need to mention Tom Cruise for people to get that one).
I'm sure you meant Ethan Hunt (Tom Cruise's character in Mission Impossible) and not Ethan Hawke (actor, former husband of Uma Thurman).
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Old October 7 2013, 09:57 PM   #26
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If I were Kenneth Branagh, I'd be a bit dissatisfied as having myself only mentioned as ''the director of THOR.'' (And HENRY V, DEAD AGAIN, MARY SHELLEY'S FRANKENSTEIN and SLEUTH, thank you very much.)
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Old October 8 2013, 03:16 AM   #27
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If I were Kenneth Branagh, I'd be a bit dissatisfied as having myself only mentioned as ''the director of THOR.'' (And HENRY V, DEAD AGAIN, MARY SHELLEY'S FRANKENSTEIN and SLEUTH, thank you very much.)
I get what you're saying, however, this films target audience isn't going to be familiar with his prior work. IMO the target audience is "action film fan who saw MI:4, Bourne 4 or Skyfall", is 15-30yrs olf, not necessarily the Clancy readership which likely skews a larger age range demo
Thor is recent and did well so it makes sense to relate them together.
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Old October 8 2013, 11:05 AM   #28
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Isn't it that you usually get credited for your most recent work?

Recently I've seen a cheap DTV bluray with Bruce Willis, and the blurb credited him for "Expendables 2", not "Die Hard".
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Old October 8 2013, 10:21 PM   #29
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I miss the days when they'd bring up their BEST work, recent or otherwise. You don't see much of that lately except for Oscar winners in film casts....
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Old October 8 2013, 10:28 PM   #30
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If I were Kenneth Branagh, I'd be a bit dissatisfied as having myself only mentioned as ''the director of THOR.'' (And HENRY V, DEAD AGAIN, MARY SHELLEY'S FRANKENSTEIN and SLEUTH, thank you very much.)
I get what you're saying, however, this films target audience isn't going to be familiar with his prior work. IMO the target audience is "action film fan who saw MI:4, Bourne 4 or Skyfall", is 15-30yrs olf, not necessarily the Clancy readership which likely skews a larger age range demo
Thor is recent and did well so it makes sense to relate them together.
"You liked Thor a couple years ago, try this, same guy"

Agreed. Who would be excited about an action/suspense movie if the director's previous work was "Henry V"?


"Man of Steel" credited Christopher Nolan as "The director of the dark Knight"

No mention of "Memento" or "Insomnia"

Just the movie that made 1 billion dollars at the box office.
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