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Old September 30 2013, 08:50 PM   #76
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Re: Ok Trekkers, Don't Forget To Sign Up For Mandatory Obamacare Oct 1

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Not true at all that I am confused. I am privy to a lot of things pertaining to this. Sheriff Joe Arpaio's Cold Case Posse of the Maricopa County Sheriffs Office has done a 22 month investigation that found the birth certificate put on the White House website back on April 27, 2011 to be a 100% forgery. That evidence was backed by a independent court recognized forensic handwriting and computer-generated document expert named Reed Hayes from Hawaii. He has decades of experience with impeccable credentials. His report was over 40 pages of all things wrong with Obama's birth document and was submitted to Arpaio's lead investigator Mike Zullo. Here is the evidence in an affidavit by Mike Zullo. It is a stunning complication of evidence and it has been turned over to Congressman Steve Stockman and Ted Yoho who are working behind closed doors to get a investigative congressional committee together with subpoena powers. Their evidence now puts the official statements of the Hawaii Dept. of Health officials in question. So no, we can't at this time conclude that Hawaii was the true birthplace of Obama. Also a dual citizen can never be considered a natural born Citizen. The U.S. state department frowns upon dual citizenship.

https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B1O4...it?usp=sharing
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Laugh all you want but you have absolutely no rebuttal against the evidence Arpaio's lead investigator has accumulated. Anyway I have to leave for the rest of the day. I am headed to tailgate at the Superdome for tonight's game between the Saints and Dolphins then on to Bourbon street afterwards. Later guys.
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Old September 30 2013, 08:52 PM   #77
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Yea but a authoritative law enforcement entity called the Maricopa County Sheriffs Office now has evidence that puts their statements and actions into serious question.
Really? An elected political actor in a jurisdiction far removed from the one in question is sufficient to overcome all the evidence to the contrary?

Not that I care, birther bullshit is 100% irrelevant at this point.
Yeah, the OP has just destroyed any credibility he may have had on pretty much ANY subject now. I'm done with this.
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Old September 30 2013, 08:57 PM   #78
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Re: Ok Trekkers, Don't Forget To Sign Up For Mandatory Obamacare Oct 1

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Also a dual citizen can never be considered a natural born Citizen. The U.S. state department frowns upon dual citizenship.
I didn't notice this silliness until Kestrel quoted it.

Shilliam, the only thing you need to be a natural born U.S. citizen is to have been born in the U.S. (including territories, etc.) or, if you were born elsewhere, to have a parent who is a U.S. citizen. There is nothing in the law that says you can't also be the citizen of another country.

The State Department doesn't encourage dual citizenship, but it also doesn't disallow it. Just off the top of my head, I know at least three people who have dual citizenship, two in real life and one here.
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Old September 30 2013, 09:25 PM   #79
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Re: Ok Trekkers, Don't Forget To Sign Up For Mandatory Obamacare Oct 1

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Kommander, are you really saying that in MI, being below the Federal poverty level isn't poor enough to make you eligible for Medicaid? That's outrageous!
Yeah, that's Michigan. They cut my mother's EBT (food stamps) because of her income (being a caregiver) was slightly too high even though she's below the Federal proverty level.

Only in Michigan.
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Old September 30 2013, 09:31 PM   #80
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Re: Ok Trekkers, Don't Forget To Sign Up For Mandatory Obamacare Oct 1

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I am privy to a lot of things pertaining to this.


Good grief, all because the guy has vaguely brown skin. Get over it, man.
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Old September 30 2013, 09:35 PM   #81
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Re: Ok Trekkers, Don't Forget To Sign Up For Mandatory Obamacare Oct 1

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Not true at all that I am confused. I am privy to a lot of things pertaining to this. Sheriff Joe Arpaio's Cold Case Posse of the Maricopa County Sheriffs Office has done a 22 month investigation that found the birth certificate put on the White House website back on April 27, 2011 to be a 100% forgery. That evidence was backed by a independent court recognized forensic handwriting and computer-generated document expert named Reed Hayes from Hawaii. He has decades of experience with impeccable credentials. His report was over 40 pages of all things wrong with Obama's birth document and was submitted to Arpaio's lead investigator Mike Zullo. Here is the evidence in an affidavit by Mike Zullo. It is a stunning complication of evidence and it has been turned over to Congressman Steve Stockman and Ted Yoho who are working behind closed doors to get a investigative congressional committee together with subpoena powers. Their evidence now puts the official statements of the Hawaii Dept. of Health officials in question. So no, we can't at this time conclude that Hawaii was the true birthplace of Obama.
You complain of political bias above, yet invoke an investigation by a partisan politician, conducted by volunteers, not investigators of the Sheriff's Office. If the sheriff has evidence of fraud, he is supposed present it to prosecutors, not just hold a press conference. But screening a case for prosecutors would not raise him any campaign funds.

Not that it matters, I can see where this is going. No matter how credible, any evidence presented that doesn't support the conspiracy theory will be dismissed as "part of the conspiracy."

Also a dual citizen can never be considered a natural born Citizen. The U.S. state department frowns upon dual citizenship.
Uh huh. I won't hold my breath waiting for you to cite the relevant law or decision.
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Old September 30 2013, 09:36 PM   #82
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Re: Ok Trekkers, Don't Forget To Sign Up For Mandatory Obamacare Oct 1

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Kommander, are you really saying that in MI, being below the Federal poverty level isn't poor enough to make you eligible for Medicaid? That's outrageous!
Yeah, that's Michigan. They cut my mother's EBT (food stamps) because of her income (being a caregiver) was not slightly too high even though she's below the Federal proverty level.

Only in Michigan.
That's sad.
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Old September 30 2013, 09:37 PM   #83
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Re: Ok Trekkers, Don't Forget To Sign Up For Mandatory Obamacare Oct 1

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Shilliam Watner wrote: View Post
Not true at all that I am confused. I am privy to a lot of things pertaining to this. Sheriff Joe Arpaio's Cold Case Posse of the Maricopa County Sheriffs Office has done a 22 month investigation that found the birth certificate put on the White House website back on April 27, 2011 to be a 100% forgery. That evidence was backed by a independent court recognized forensic handwriting and computer-generated document expert named Reed Hayes from Hawaii. He has decades of experience with impeccable credentials. His report was over 40 pages of all things wrong with Obama's birth document and was submitted to Arpaio's lead investigator Mike Zullo. Here is the evidence in an affidavit by Mike Zullo. It is a stunning complication of evidence and it has been turned over to Congressman Steve Stockman and Ted Yoho who are working behind closed doors to get a investigative congressional committee together with subpoena powers. Their evidence now puts the official statements of the Hawaii Dept. of Health officials in question. So no, we can't at this time conclude that Hawaii was the true birthplace of Obama. Also a dual citizen can never be considered a natural born Citizen. The U.S. state department frowns upon dual citizenship.

https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B1O4...it?usp=sharing
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Laugh all you want but you have absolutely no rebuttal against the evidence Arpaio's lead investigator has accumulated. Anyway I have to leave for the rest of the day. I am headed to tailgate at the Superdome for tonight's game between the Saints and Dolphins then on to Bourbon street afterwards. Later guys.

I think that Kestrel's response to your post was adequate to say the least.

The moment you brought up Sheriff Arpaio to the mix, whatever credibility that you had is gone.
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Old September 30 2013, 09:39 PM   #84
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Re: Ok Trekkers, Don't Forget To Sign Up For Mandatory Obamacare Oct 1

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Kommander, are you really saying that in MI, being below the Federal poverty level isn't poor enough to make you eligible for Medicaid? That's outrageous!
Yeah, that's Michigan. They cut my mother's EBT (food stamps) because of her income (being a caregiver) was not slightly too high even though she's below the Federal proverty level.

Only in Michigan.
That's sad.
I forgot to mention that my mother is 65 (she'll be 66 next month) and on Medicare and SS.
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Old September 30 2013, 09:45 PM   #85
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^ Someone I know who's about that age is in the process of moving back to Michigan. I hope he doesn't end up regretting it.
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Old September 30 2013, 10:03 PM   #86
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Re: Ok Trekkers, Don't Forget To Sign Up For Mandatory Obamacare Oct 1

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^ Someone I know who's about that age is in the process of moving back to Michigan. I hope he doesn't end up regretting it.
My mother moved back to Michigan over three years ago from Missouri not too long after her mother died.
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Old September 30 2013, 10:05 PM   #87
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Re: Ok Trekkers, Don't Forget To Sign Up For Mandatory Obamacare Oct 1

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Good grief, all because the guy has vaguely brown skin. Get over it, man.
Being likewise British, I have no horse in this race. But this ^^^ is the part that always blows my mind. The sheer contortions that so much of the US citizenship puts themselves through to justify claiming that Obama has no right to be president, from the toothless redneck on the trailer park to the Republican wingnut in Congress. And all because they just can't handle there being a black guy in charge.

It's been five years, for fuck's sake. He won. You lost. Let it go.
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Old September 30 2013, 10:10 PM   #88
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Re: Ok Trekkers, Don't Forget To Sign Up For Mandatory Obamacare Oct 1

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Not true at all that I am confused. I am privy to a lot of things pertaining to this. Sheriff Joe Arpaio's Cold Case Posse of the Maricopa County Sheriffs Office has done a 22 month investigation that found the birth certificate put on the White House website back on April 27, 2011 to be a 100% forgery.
:g uffaw:
JOE FUCKING ARPAIO?!?!?!?!?
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
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Re: Ok Trekkers, Don't Forget To Sign Up For Mandatory Obamacare Oct 1

I thought this thread was talking about the ACA. I was hoping maybe to learn more about it in this thread. I guess that's not going to happen. I actually don't like Obama as much as I did before, but this birth certificate thing is one of the most asinine crap reasons for hating him that I know. It really is time to get over that.
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Old September 30 2013, 10:46 PM   #90
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Good grief, all because the guy has vaguely brown skin. Get over it, man.
Being likewise British, I have no horse in this race. But this ^^^ is the part that always blows my mind. The sheer contortions that so much of the US citizenship puts themselves through to justify claiming that Obama has no right to be president, from the toothless redneck on the trailer park to the Republican wingnut in Congress. And all because they just can't handle there being a black guy in charge.

It's been five years, for fuck's sake. He won. You lost. Let it go.
And those toothless rednecks are the sort who rant about the evils of teh socializm but are frequently taking some sort of welfare money (and I know there are posts on this board who've got family members who do exactly that though not the trailer park dweller bit).

Same goes for the elderly tea partiers demanding government hands of their medicare.

They seemed determined to prove the maxim "not all conservatives are stupid but most stupid people are conservative".
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