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Old September 30 2013, 07:51 PM   #61
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Re: Ok Trekkers, Don't Forget To Sign Up For Mandatory Obamacare Oct 1

Get help, no sane person actually believes this stuff.
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Old September 30 2013, 07:52 PM   #62
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Re: Ok Trekkers, Don't Forget To Sign Up For Mandatory Obamacare Oct 1

The State of Hawaii says he was born there. There is no higher authority in such matters.
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Old September 30 2013, 07:55 PM   #63
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Re: Ok Trekkers, Don't Forget To Sign Up For Mandatory Obamacare Oct 1

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I'm not sure if I like this thing or not. On one end I've heard it's really affecting employers and that is why Hiring is not as good as it once was, but on the other, it is affordable health care that everyone should take advantage of. I also got a notice from my current health insurance this last weekend saying that if I don't apply for new health insurance, I will be put into something that is like what I currently have (Which will no longer be offered) and the rates will jump again from $227 to $300.04. I don't like that one bit.
You might qualify for a subsidy depending on how much you make, tomalak301.
I just checked and I do not qualify. The good news is I have my old insurance until the end of the year. As for next year, I'm not even sure if it's going to be delayed or not.
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Old September 30 2013, 08:00 PM   #64
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The State of Hawaii says he was born there. There is no higher authority in such matters.
Yea but a authoritative law enforcement entity called the Maricopa County Sheriffs Office now has evidence that puts their statements and actions into serious question. The people in question are Hawaii state registrar Alvin Onaka, Chiyome Fukino and Loretta Fuddy, the new Hawaii Director Of Health. They will probably be the first to be subpoenaed by a investigative committee on capitol hill.
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Old September 30 2013, 08:02 PM   #65
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I'm searching for new plans in my state and I can't afford it on my own. I was able to before this and now my plan is being phased out. The cost for the bronze plan is almost 100 bucks more than my plan and I really don't know what to do. I've got less than a month to figure things out...
I just found out I'm in the same boat. I'm curious how is this affordable if because of this bill I'm going to be paying more for Insurance than I am already? The more I research this (And I did hear about the whole freezing on hiring by employers because of the ACA at an accounting conference I went to in Vegas a few years ago) the more I don't like it. I'm going to have some decisions to make in the next few months.
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Old September 30 2013, 08:02 PM   #66
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Get help, no sane person actually believes this stuff.
Watch the press conference by Sheriff Arpaio in the link I provided. Don't stick your head in the sand. Watch it and listen.
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Old September 30 2013, 08:04 PM   #67
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Yea but a authoritative law enforcement entity called the Maricopa County Sheriffs Office now has evidence that puts their statements and actions into serious question.
Really? An elected political actor in a jurisdiction far removed from the one in question is sufficient to overcome all the evidence to the contrary?

Not that I care, birther bullshit is 100% irrelevant at this point.
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Old September 30 2013, 08:13 PM   #68
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Wow. The OP just completely derailed his own thread. Impressive.
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Old September 30 2013, 08:14 PM   #69
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Not a single member of Congress is interested in pursuing Zullo's claims, even with the downright crazy Tea Party caucus involved. That right there says it all.
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Old September 30 2013, 08:28 PM   #70
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Re: Ok Trekkers, Don't Forget To Sign Up For Mandatory Obamacare Oct 1

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Politifact has been found to be extremely biased towards the left. Not a good reliable source.
You mean it counters conservative bullshit by actually providing the truth.

Newsflash. Just because the truth doesn't fit with your worldview doesn't mean it's biased.
It's not conservative bullshit. Politifact has been exposed as a unreliable source.

http://www.politifactbias.com/
You've referenced a blog that posts no citations. That's not a credible source.
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Old September 30 2013, 08:28 PM   #71
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Re: Ok Trekkers, Don't Forget To Sign Up For Mandatory Obamacare Oct 1

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Doesn't bother me at all because I would get the insurance, because I needed it, just like I have car insurance, because I need it. If I was single now, and there was no Affordable Health Act, I'd be majorly screwed. But now, if I had to buy insurance for myself, I could, because otherwise I don't think insurance companies would take me, or they would charge me an outrageous price I could never hope to afford.
It's wrong for the government to intrude into our lives and impose fines on people who can't afford mandatory premiums. This will cause a lot of heart ache on families and small business owners across the nation.
I look forward to your complaints on mandatory auto insurance.
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Old September 30 2013, 08:33 PM   #72
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Not a single member of Congress is interested in pursuing Zullo's claims, even with the downright crazy Tea Party caucus involved. That right there says it all.
Completely false. It was the Tea Party who lobbied Sheriff Arpaio to initiate the investigation and yes, congressmen HAVE been meeting with Zullo to plot the next step in getting this Constitutional crisis resolved.
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Old September 30 2013, 08:33 PM   #73
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Re: Ok Trekkers, Don't Forget To Sign Up For Mandatory Obamacare Oct 1

You have the right to choose not to drive, just as much as you have the right to choose not to live. QED.
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Old September 30 2013, 08:39 PM   #74
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Not a single member of Congress is interested in pursuing Zullo's claims, even with the downright crazy Tea Party caucus involved. That right there says it all.
Completely false. It was the Tea Party who lobbied Sheriff Arpaio to initiate the investigation and yes, congressmen HAVE been meeting with Zullo to plot the next step in getting this Constitutional crisis resolved.
...this imaginary Constitutional crisis...

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Old September 30 2013, 08:39 PM   #75
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Not true at all that I am confused. I am privy to a lot of things pertaining to this. Sheriff Joe Arpaio's Cold Case Posse of the Maricopa County Sheriffs Office has done a 22 month investigation that found the birth certificate put on the White House website back on April 27, 2011 to be a 100% forgery. That evidence was backed by a independent court recognized forensic handwriting and computer-generated document expert named Reed Hayes from Hawaii. He has decades of experience with impeccable credentials. His report was over 40 pages of all things wrong with Obama's birth document and was submitted to Arpaio's lead investigator Mike Zullo. Here is the evidence in an affidavit by Mike Zullo. It is a stunning complication of evidence and it has been turned over to Congressman Steve Stockman and Ted Yoho who are working behind closed doors to get a investigative congressional committee together with subpoena powers. Their evidence now puts the official statements of the Hawaii Dept. of Health officials in question. So no, we can't at this time conclude that Hawaii was the true birthplace of Obama. Also a dual citizen can never be considered a natural born Citizen. The U.S. state department frowns upon dual citizenship.

https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B1O4...it?usp=sharing
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