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Old September 30 2013, 07:57 AM   #31
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Re: Ok Trekkers, Don't Forget To Sign Up For Mandatory Obamacare Oct 1

Would Shilliam Watner care to answer all the questions raised by people here that completely destroyed his original post?
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Old September 30 2013, 10:07 AM   #32
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Re: Ok Trekkers, Don't Forget To Sign Up For Mandatory Obamacare Oct 1

Shilliam Watner wrote: View Post
Please read:
Yeah, sure. I'll read something from Fox News. And I'll believe every word.

Peach Wookiee wrote: View Post
RJ, because of unique circumstances, I don't think I qualify for the subsidy.
I hope you do. You should contact them and talk to somebody about it. Hopefully there's a way to take individual circumstances into account.

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Peach is a *very* special circumstance, but I'll let her describe that if she chooses. Suffice it to say, there's a very real chance that she could end up paying significantly less under the Affordable Care Act than she currently is.
That sounds more optimistic. I hope that turns out to be true.
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Old September 30 2013, 10:40 AM   #33
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Re: Ok Trekkers, Don't Forget To Sign Up For Mandatory Obamacare Oct 1

Here's a nice (simple) breakdown about what's going on in government for those of you who don't have all the facts straight and need it regurgitated to you in digestible bits:

http://www.cnn.com/2013/09/30/politi...html?hpt=hp_t1
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Old September 30 2013, 12:35 PM   #34
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Re: Ok Trekkers, Don't Forget To Sign Up For Mandatory Obamacare Oct 1

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Kommander, are you really saying that in MI, being below the Federal poverty level isn't poor enough to make you eligible for Medicaid? That's outrageous!
He would be if his state's governor had actually implemented the ACA. Unfortunately, the Supreme Court made the Medicaid expansion "optional," so people like Kommander get screwed. Under normal circumstances, Congress could find a way to adjust the law to fix this, but these are far from normal circumstances.

Goddammit, I forgot what forum I was in. Sorry, Shilliam. I'll only talk to you that way in TNZ.
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Old September 30 2013, 01:10 PM   #35
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Tora Ziyal wrote: View Post

Oh, and fuck Shilliam Watner. It was awesome to see everyone dismiss him in his Obamacare thread. Fucking clown.
Why the hostility?
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Old September 30 2013, 01:13 PM   #36
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Re: Ok Trekkers, Don't Forget To Sign Up For Mandatory Obamacare Oct 1

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Your signature tells us all we need to know about you, Birther.
Birther? No, I prefer to be called a Constitution originalist. And my signature is a good question. Would you care to answer it?
No sane person would legitimately ask that question. Anything else you've asserted here is diminished by that, you do realize that, don't you?

Extra credit question: Do you think that Sen Ted Cruz is eligible to run for President?
The British Nationality Act of 1948 governed Obama''s birth status when he was born. It was stated on his campaign website back in 2008. As for Cruz, no he is not eligible for Article 2 Section 1. From his 'Fight The Smears campaign website:

"When Barack Obama Jr. was born on Aug. 4,1961, in Honolulu, Kenya was a British colony, still part of the United Kingdom’s dwindling empire. As a Kenyan native, Barack Obama Sr. was a British subject whose citizenship status was governed by The British Nationality Act of 1948. That same act governed the status of Obama Sr.‘s children.
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Old September 30 2013, 01:34 PM   #37
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Re: Ok Trekkers, Don't Forget To Sign Up For Mandatory Obamacare Oct 1

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I'm glad for it. My family will see their rates cut in half; I will be able to have insurance as well.

Anyway, I have these links for the OP, since Fox News is an unreliable source:

http://lifehacker.com/5922382/how-wi...-law-affect-me

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-me...alth-care-law/
Politifact has been found to be extremely biased towards the left. Not a good reliable source.
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Old September 30 2013, 01:37 PM   #38
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Re: Ok Trekkers, Don't Forget To Sign Up For Mandatory Obamacare Oct 1

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This doesn't apply to me, either, because I'm covered by my husband's employer. But I sure wish we had the Affordable Care Act when I was single, because I had to rely on family to help me out. If I was single NOW, I wouldn't be able to get or afford coverage because of my preexisting health problems. With this plan, I could probably swing it, if I had to.
How do you feel about the mandatory fines?
That they are constitutional.

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Politifact has been found to be extremely biased towards the left. Not a good reliable source.
Reality shares the same bias.
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Old September 30 2013, 01:39 PM   #39
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Re: Ok Trekkers, Don't Forget To Sign Up For Mandatory Obamacare Oct 1

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Why the hostility?
We really hate people who can't use quote tags correctly.
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Old September 30 2013, 01:41 PM   #40
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Re: Ok Trekkers, Don't Forget To Sign Up For Mandatory Obamacare Oct 1

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Birther? No, I prefer to be called a Constitution originalist. And my signature is a good question. Would you care to answer it?
Obama never made the claim your sig asserts.
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Old September 30 2013, 01:42 PM   #41
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Why the hostility?
We really hate people who can't use quote tags correctly.
I don't think he was being angry over that.
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Old September 30 2013, 02:15 PM   #42
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Re: Ok Trekkers, Don't Forget To Sign Up For Mandatory Obamacare Oct 1

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I'm glad for it. My family will see their rates cut in half; I will be able to have insurance as well.

Anyway, I have these links for the OP, since Fox News is an unreliable source:

http://lifehacker.com/5922382/how-wi...-law-affect-me

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-me...alth-care-law/
Politifact has been found to be extremely biased towards the left. Not a good reliable source.
You mean it counters conservative bullshit by actually providing the truth.

Newsflash. Just because the truth doesn't fit with your worldview doesn't mean it's biased.
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Old September 30 2013, 02:24 PM   #43
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I'm glad for it. My family will see their rates cut in half; I will be able to have insurance as well.

Anyway, I have these links for the OP, since Fox News is an unreliable source:

http://lifehacker.com/5922382/how-wi...-law-affect-me

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-me...alth-care-law/
Politifact has been found to be extremely biased towards the left. Not a good reliable source.
You mean it counters conservative bullshit by actually providing the truth.

Newsflash. Just because the truth doesn't fit with your worldview doesn't mean it's biased.
It's not conservative bullshit. Politifact has been exposed as a unreliable source.

http://www.politifactbias.com/
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Old September 30 2013, 02:27 PM   #44
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Re: Ok Trekkers, Don't Forget To Sign Up For Mandatory Obamacare Oct 1

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Oh, and fuck Shilliam Watner. It was awesome to see everyone dismiss him in his Obamacare thread. Fucking clown.
Why the hostility?
Sorry, the sentiment was genuine, but it was uncalled for in this forum. I apologize for that and have edited my post. If you'd like no-holds-barred discussion of this issue, please come to TNZ.

Otherwise, you'll have to settle for my relatively polite disagreement here.
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Old September 30 2013, 02:29 PM   #45
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Re: Ok Trekkers, Don't Forget To Sign Up For Mandatory Obamacare Oct 1

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It's not conservative bullshit. Politifact has been exposed as a unreliable source.

http://www.politifactbias.com/
Politifact seems to have less of a bias than the site you have linked to for support your case does.
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