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Old September 30 2013, 08:13 AM   #721
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Old September 30 2013, 09:25 AM   #722
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Like others said, a solid episode but not the best ever. It was a little to pat for me. After the intensity leading up to it the actual finale was just a lot of clean closure. I loved the scene with him setting up the money for his kids because I had no idea where he was going with that. But aside from that there weren't many questions in the episode. It was pretty clear what was going to happen and the only real moment of tension in the end was whether or not Jesse kills Walt. I'm sad the show is gone but I think the ending of the Wire was more meaningful for me.
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Old September 30 2013, 09:50 AM   #723
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Just saw this on FB, in case anyone was interested about the meaning of the episode's title:

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Old September 30 2013, 10:38 AM   #724
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According to the EW interview with Gilligan the other proposed endings were

1. Jesse kills walt. They chose not to do it as they felt that Jesse was not a killer.

2. Walt get's away with it all. In a way he does win and get away with it, just not completely

3. Walt is the only survivor and the show ends with him standing in the wreckage that he created. They thought it would be too much for the fans.

http://insidetv.ew.com/2013/09/30/br...ince-gilligan/
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Old September 30 2013, 12:36 PM   #725
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Very solid ending. My only disappointment was how short the ending shoot-out was, I wanted a little more action for the big finale. I liked that Walt's final actions were redemptive and not dark. And him going down into the meth lab to die was sad and touching.
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Old September 30 2013, 01:19 PM   #726
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According to the EW interview with Gilligan the other proposed endings were

1. Jesse kills walt. They chose not to do it as they felt that Jesse was not a killer.

2. Walt get's away with it all. In a way he does win and get away with it, just not completely

3. Walt is the only survivor and the show ends with him standing in the wreckage that he created. They thought it would be too much for the fans.

http://insidetv.ew.com/2013/09/30/br...ince-gilligan/
I tend to agree on all counts. Walt was a dying man who at the onset chose his death. Death by meth cook. The audience needed to see that conclusion. It reminded me of Mike's death. I also think we needed to see Jesse liberated, not just from captivity, but from his ongoing curse.

I don't think it needed more action at all. It's not about a big showdown, it's about intelligence & resourcefulness overpowering might. I think the best thing they did with Todd's character, besides killing him off, was to survive him long enough after the massacre to actually see how Walt had beaten them

VG mentioned a dropped scene on Talking Bad, in which Heisenberg get's made by a former student of Walt's, & in the end asks the kid if he was a good teacher, & They dropped it because of time restraints

I too think it was unnecessary, because we get the answer to that question at the end anyway. Clearly he was a good teacher if he can take two different kids, young enough to be his students, one who actually was, & demonstrate his meth process well enough that they could make it just as well, even though they probably knew shit all about chemistry
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Old September 30 2013, 03:48 PM   #727
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Old September 30 2013, 04:48 PM   #728
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You are full of idiots and assholes.

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Old September 30 2013, 05:01 PM   #729
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I was satisfied with the finale, though I can't say I was blown away. I'm not sure yet whether the small feeling of let-down is just due to unreasonable expectations. But much of the way things unfolded was down to just dumb luck rather than the scientific precision Walt had prided himself on: A nationally-known fugitive driving thousands of miles in a stolen car, easily bypassing the Schwartzes' security, the Albuquerque police/DEA being so bad at stakeouts, the server getting the stevia from just the right table, everybody at the clubhouse being in the machine gun's line of fire.

Walt took responsibility for breaking bad. But his final success at laundering his money, in a very clever way that allowed Flynn to have his cake and eat it too, seemed like maybe more of a triumph than he deserved.

Jesse's future looks to be pretty dire, his escape a last moment of exhilaration before his past and lack of options catch up with him. His confession video will no doubt soon be in the hands of the police.

The machine gun-combined-with-automatic-sprinkler idea was great, I got a kick out of that.

The final scene was one of BB's trademark "impossible POV," which seemed fitting. It also owed something to Taxi Driver, which was also done by Boardwalk Empire last year.

Taken as three acts, the last three episodes were very satisfying overall, and a good end to a great show, probably in my all-time top five. It may be a while before another show comes along that has me anticipating new episodes so keenly. Well done to VG and everyone involved.
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Old September 30 2013, 05:05 PM   #730
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I will definitely be making that ASAP.
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Old September 30 2013, 05:21 PM   #731
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Thought it was a great ending, and yet.....

Part of me was kinda hoping for something a bit more messy and chaotic for the final episode. As cool as it was seeing Walter orchestrate his plan and out-think everybody one last time, it almost seemed like he was TOO much in control (the only time he had to scramble at all was when his keys got taken away).

I think I would have preferred to see him be more of the desperate and frazzled Walt at the end, and a bit less of the calm and confident Heisenberg.
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Old September 30 2013, 05:40 PM   #732
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I don't think there was anything that could have matched my extremely high expectations for the finale, but despite a slow start, it hit all the necessary points one would anticipate, and wrapped things up in a very satisfactory way. B+.

I figured Badger and Skinny Pete were going to be making a comeback from Gilligan's hint last week about "woodwork," and about halfway through the laser sight thing I guessed that it was them. Walt hiring some professional hitmen just isn't his style. Great scene with them in the car.

I was wondering why Walt was letting Gretchen and Elliot go without any threat or harassment given his anger at them in Granite State, but then he waved his hands and the laser sights came on. I feel bad for them, but that was pretty awesome.

That was a nice scene with some closure between Walt and Skylar. It was good to see him be honest to her finally.

It was great that Walt took down the Nazis with one last bit of science/engineering rather than just manning the gun himself.

Lydia being poisoned with the ricin in the Stevia packet was obvious, but still satisfying, as was Jesse getting to kill Meth Damon finally.

Walt dying after achieving some small bit of redemption and closure was about the best way this could have ended, and I'm happy with it.

The finale wasn't the best episode of the series or even this season (the episode where Hank dies and Skylar pulls the knife on Walt was superior), but given how amazing this show and season have been, it was still an excellent way to close out the series.
Pretty much summed up my feelings about the finale.. the best episode of the show will forever be "Ozymandias" but the finale closed all storylines and the story itself.
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Old September 30 2013, 06:05 PM   #733
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You are full of idiots and assholes.

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I don't see a problem with that. Most of them weren't that bad just pointing out how you can end a show well and not like LOST.
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Old September 30 2013, 06:16 PM   #734
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I will definitely be making that ASAP.
Me too... Of course, we like tourists to come to ABQ and buy it here..

The Candy Lady

She also has a section in the story where she sells "naughty candy" suitable for, well, more adult candy fans..
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Old September 30 2013, 06:18 PM   #735
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You are full of idiots and assholes.

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Oy vey, it's really time that the internet had an enema, as I am so sick of its overwhelming hateful, rude population.
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