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Old September 30 2013, 01:17 AM   #16
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Re: Ok Trekkers, Don't Forget To Sign Up For Mandatory Obamacare Oct 1

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Oct 1st is when you are supposed to sign up for the 'Affordable Care Act' or Obamacare. If you don't know what the monthly premiums will cost you, click on the link below and enter your information into the Obamacare calculator. Also don't forget, if you do not sign up, you will be hit with a mandatory fine.

http://kff.org/interactive/subsidy-calculator/
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Old September 30 2013, 01:22 AM   #17
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Re: Ok Trekkers, Don't Forget To Sign Up For Mandatory Obamacare Oct 1

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Many people are finding out their premiums will triple under Obamacare. Take this man for instance. His health insurace premiums are currently $333.00 per month and Obamacare is going to cause the premium to increase to $965.00 a month. That is outrageous. Don't you agree? Please read: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013...are-nightmare/

Andy and Amy Mangione of Louisville, Ky. and their two boys are just the kind of people who should be helped by ObamaCare. But they recently got a nasty surprise in the mail.
As usual with Fox News and their "fair and balanced" bullshit, some important facts are omitted from their story.
Mangione is a lobbyist for Big Pharma.

Andrew J. Mangione Jr. is the Vice President, Government Relations, for AMAC. Andy’s career spans the medical device, pharmaceutical and managed care sectors of health care. He has held senior and executive sales positions with organizations including Humana, Inc., Pfizer, Inc. and Invacare Corporation. Andy serves as the lead legislative and government contact in Washington, DC for AMAC, and is also responsible for national grassroots outreach and developing strategic relationships. Andy earned a B.A. in Management from Malone University and his Master of Business Administration from Lake Erie College.
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Old September 30 2013, 01:28 AM   #18
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Re: Ok Trekkers, Don't Forget To Sign Up For Mandatory Obamacare Oct 1

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Oct 1st is when you are supposed to sign up for the 'Affordable Care Act' or Obamacare. If you don't know what the monthly premiums will cost you, click on the link below and enter your information into the Obamacare calculator. Also don't forget, if you do not sign up, you will be hit with a mandatory fine.

http://kff.org/interactive/subsidy-calculator/
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Old September 30 2013, 02:39 AM   #19
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Re: Ok Trekkers, Don't Forget To Sign Up For Mandatory Obamacare Oct 1

I'm really looking forward to it.

I work in healthcare, but don't have coverage provided by my employer. With a preexisting condition I have been totally unable to get coverage for the past 4 years. And though I'm able to afford my regular care out of pocket, the thought of how I would be able to afford something catastrophic as I get older has been quite frightening.

Our governor released some of our rates last week and we learned that our rates are below the national average and probably even cheaper here in Chicago than in the rest of the state (probably the first time that's ever been the case ). Though I won't be eligible for any of the subsidies, it looks like I'll be able to purchase a gold plan for around $225 a month. I can afford that, but the peace of mind it'll provide really will be priceless for me.

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Peach, is it $100 more than you pay know even after taking into account the subsidy?
Peach is a *very* special circumstance, but I'll let her describe that if she chooses. Suffice it to say, there's a very real chance that she could end up paying significantly less under the Affordable Care Act than she currently is.

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If medicaid is expanded in my state, I qualify for that. If not, the silver plan is nearly 80% of my income, and the bronze plan is 60%.

So, essentially, I'd have to give up the majority of my income for health insurance I wouldn't be able to use because the hand full of pennies I'm left with isn't enough for the copays?
That absolutely can't be true.

If you're making little enough that you could qualify for Medicaid, then there's a good chance that you'll qualify for a subsidy to help with the premium.

Why not try putting your info in the subsidy calculator and see what comes up?

Link

When I type in the info for a 30 year old non-smoker living in Detroit on $25,000, it says the bronze plan premium works out to $1,130 a year. But that same person is eligible for a subsidy of more than $650. Your numbers might be slightly different, but, if you're making any money at all how can the bronze plan premium be 60% of your income?
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Old September 30 2013, 03:19 AM   #20
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Re: Ok Trekkers, Don't Forget To Sign Up For Mandatory Obamacare Oct 1

I'm glad for it. My family will see their rates cut in half; I will be able to have insurance as well.

Anyway, I have these links for the OP, since Fox News is an unreliable source:

http://lifehacker.com/5922382/how-wi...-law-affect-me

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-me...alth-care-law/
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Old September 30 2013, 03:41 AM   #21
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Re: Ok Trekkers, Don't Forget To Sign Up For Mandatory Obamacare Oct 1

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This doesn't apply to me, either, because I'm covered by my husband's employer. But I sure wish we had the Affordable Care Act when I was single, because I had to rely on family to help me out. If I was single NOW, I wouldn't be able to get or afford coverage because of my preexisting health problems. With this plan, I could probably swing it, if I had to.
How do you feel about the mandatory fines?
Considering that they are a tax, not a fine, according to the Supreme Court, not too bad.
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Old September 30 2013, 03:43 AM   #22
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Re: Ok Trekkers, Don't Forget To Sign Up For Mandatory Obamacare Oct 1

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I have no problem with it, either. The cost is based on income, so it will be affordable; and the fines are there so that those people who can afford insurance and don't buy it-- knowing that they can sponge off the government if anything happens to them-- now must get it.

Peach, is it $100 more than you pay know even after taking into account the subsidy?
Many people are finding out their premiums will triple under Obamacare. Take this man for instance. His health insurace premiums are currently $333.00 per month and Obamacare is going to cause the premium to increase to $965.00 a month. That is outrageous. Don't you agree? Please read: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013...are-nightmare/
It's Faux News. If they said the sky was blue, I'd look out the window before believing them.
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Old September 30 2013, 03:53 AM   #23
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Re: Ok Trekkers, Don't Forget To Sign Up For Mandatory Obamacare Oct 1

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Oct 1st is when you are supposed to sign up for the 'Affordable Care Act' or Obamacare. If you don't know what the monthly premiums will cost you, click on the link below and enter your information into the Obamacare calculator. Also don't forget, if you do not sign up, you will be hit with a mandatory fine.

http://kff.org/interactive/subsidy-calculator/
I'm required to sign up for not such thing. I *am* required to have health insurance, which I do through my employer.
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Old September 30 2013, 04:43 AM   #24
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Re: Ok Trekkers, Don't Forget To Sign Up For Mandatory Obamacare Oct 1

Nice to see the profoundly incorrect OP didn't get away with anything here.

Go Obamacare!

By the way, my insurance rate went down this year.
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Old September 30 2013, 04:51 AM   #25
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Re: Ok Trekkers, Don't Forget To Sign Up For Mandatory Obamacare Oct 1

I love that any premium increase this year, as if premiums don't normally go up and as if premiums aren't increasing by a significantly lower rate under Obama (for a number of reasons) than they have at any point since we've started tracking such things, are the fault of ObamaCare.

It's laughable, but The Affordable Care Act is an easy scapegoat for now.
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Old September 30 2013, 06:07 AM   #26
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Re: Ok Trekkers, Don't Forget To Sign Up For Mandatory Obamacare Oct 1

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If medicaid is expanded in my state, I qualify for that. If not, the silver plan is nearly 80% of my income, and the bronze plan is 60%.

So, essentially, I'd have to give up the majority of my income for health insurance I wouldn't be able to use because the hand full of pennies I'm left with isn't enough for the copays?
That absolutely can't be true.

If you're making little enough that you could qualify for Medicaid, then there's a good chance that you'll qualify for a subsidy to help with the premium.

Why not try putting your info in the subsidy calculator and see what comes up?

Link

When I type in the info for a 30 year old non-smoker living in Detroit on $25,000, it says the bronze plan premium works out to $1,130 a year. But that same person is eligible for a subsidy of more than $650. Your numbers might be slightly different, but, if you're making any money at all how can the bronze plan premium be 60% of your income?
Yeah, I did the thing in the link. It said: "You will not be eligible for subsidies in the exchanges because your income is below 100% of the federal poverty level." My gross taxable income for this year is about $3,000. The rest of my income is a Pell grant and student loans, and don't count. Being a college student under 40, I'm not eligible for certain programs that would otherwise be open to those at my income level.

Although, the college student thing isn't factored into that website... How the fuck am I too poor for subsidies?

Deciding to live off student loans was a calculated risk. Yeah, there's some bullshit when it comes to things like health insurance, but overall I feel it's the best option for me. Every job I've had insists that I put that job first. My last one, the manager that was there when I started understood that college was more important than a barely above minimum wage hotel maintenance job. He even let me create my own schedule and adjust it at will if I gave at least 24 hours notice. Then, that manager got fired, the new manager cut my hours significantly (30 hours a week down to ten) and told me I could have them back if I quit school. Yeah, like I'm going to give up my future for a shitty $8-an-hour part-time job. With my current plan I'll eventually have a Ph. D., be about $50,000 in debt, and not have to deal with job/school conflicts. Hell, I'd rather have five or six times that amount of debt and a Ph. D. than making $10 an hour the rest of my life. There are negative consequences, and I'm willing to accept them, but accepting a consequence and accepting consequences with a smile on my face are two different things.
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Old September 30 2013, 06:11 AM   #27
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Re: Ok Trekkers, Don't Forget To Sign Up For Mandatory Obamacare Oct 1

I'm sorry for that. If Rick Snyder expanded the Medicaid rolls then you could get on then, and I guess the law didn't account for the spitefulness of GOP Governors. But that's really on the Governors and no one else.

I hope that Snyder realizes pretty quickly that he's endangering the lives of his citizens and changes course, damn the politics.
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Old September 30 2013, 06:19 AM   #28
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Kommander, are you really saying that in MI, being below the Federal poverty level isn't poor enough to make you eligible for Medicaid? That's outrageous!
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Old September 30 2013, 07:45 AM   #29
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Re: Ok Trekkers, Don't Forget To Sign Up For Mandatory Obamacare Oct 1

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Oct 1st is when you are supposed to sign up for the 'Affordable Care Act' or Obamacare. If you don't know what the monthly premiums will cost you, click on the link below and enter your information into the Obamacare calculator. Also don't forget, if you do not sign up, you will be hit with a mandatory fine.

http://kff.org/interactive/subsidy-calculator/
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Old September 30 2013, 07:54 AM   #30
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Re: Ok Trekkers, Don't Forget To Sign Up For Mandatory Obamacare Oct 1

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Birther? No, I prefer to be called a Constitution originalist. And my signature is a good question. Would you care to answer it?
No sane person would legitimately ask that question. Anything else you've asserted here is diminished by that, you do realize that, don't you?

Extra credit question: Do you think that Sen Ted Cruz is eligible to run for President?
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