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Old September 9 2013, 06:27 PM   #16
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Re: Space Station Jefferies

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Actually it looks like a pencil line too hastily drawn.
Pure conjecture unless you have some supporting evidence.
"The "horseshoe" cross-section is a perfect match to the exterior pod [edit: ring] in the top left and elsewhere."

You can see in the top left that the ring section features the exact same vertical slicing as the cross-section on the right side does, yes?
The shape is also a match, isn't it?

Of course, the scale in the cross-section would no longer match the scale of the Enterprise, therefore the cross-section became a cross-section of the spokes and the Enterprise was enlarged in size.
This is just a theory but it would explain the observable facts, IMHO.
But it does not support your original statement of "too hastily drawn".
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Old September 9 2013, 06:51 PM   #17
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But it does not support your original statement of "too hastily drawn".
I stand corrected, please disregard my hastily remark. Apparently he had a good idea first and a better one next (and I do mean that).

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Old September 10 2013, 01:59 AM   #18
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Here are a couple of views that you would have out of the inner ring windows I'm planning. First, a view from the lower half of the upper ring, looking down the stack toward the docking bay:



Next, a view from the upper half of the lower ring, looking up the stack:



As you can see, an office on the inner ring would feature spectacular views; especially once the model is finished.

In answer to Potemkin Prod's question: I'm using Strata Design 3D.

As for Mr. Comsol's point about the cross section: I believe them to be the spokes. As you can see, they are only three decks thick; but based on the size of the rings, I make the rims of them out to be six decks thick. The spokes are dimensioned in the drawing as only 35 feet thick; while the complete rings are called out at 100 feet thick.

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Old September 10 2013, 06:17 PM   #19
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Kewel! It'd be nice to see some of Jefferies "dockyard craft" zipping around in there, when you get to an appropriate point in your project, of course.
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Old September 11 2013, 02:38 AM   #20
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That's a great idea, Tin Man. I think I'll do that.

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Old September 29 2013, 02:33 AM   #21
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Time for an overdue update.

Texturing is beginning. Here is the central spindle, complete with windows.

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Old September 29 2013, 03:57 PM   #22
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Wow! Shaping up nicely.
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Old September 30 2013, 03:41 AM   #23
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Thanks, Praetor.

Now for some details for the storage pods.

An artistic liberty: Jefferies didn't show any detail on the outer faces of the pods. Given these were likely meant to represent the storage compartments (when this was to be K-7) i have added large cargo doors...

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Old September 30 2013, 04:52 AM   #24
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That's coming along very nicely.

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Old September 30 2013, 09:40 PM   #25
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Why would there be so many windows on the cargo pods?

The doors reminds me of the spacedock doors on Franz Joseph's Starfleet Headquarters station.
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Old September 30 2013, 10:08 PM   #26
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Why would there be so many windows on the cargo pods?
so that the tribbles have a nice view?
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Old October 1 2013, 01:18 AM   #27
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Good catch on the cargo doors. Yes, they are an homage to FJ's SFHQ.

As for the windows: Jefferies shows them on the sides of the pods. My take is that the interior of most of each pod is open space with cargo container scaffolding. Work Bees can plug containers into the matrix. Some can be pressurized and linked to corridors (and each other) for access inside them. The exterior walls of the pod thus have habitable rooms. Picture offices along the outer hull, accessible from corridors. Along the interior walls of these corridors would be airlocks that in many cases link up to cargo containers. If you need what is stored in Pod 3/Deck 7/Bay 26 (Feinberg Oscillating Framizams, or perhaps grain for Sherman's Planet), you go to the appropriate airlock and get it. I assume there would be a failsafe to keep you from opening a door without a pressurized container attached to it. At least that is my take on it. YMMV.

I will probably make more of the windows on the pods dark, as this would likely be a more sparsely inhabited part of the station.

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Old October 1 2013, 09:06 AM   #28
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Good catch on the cargo doors. Yes, they are an homage to FJ's SFHQ.
IIRC these doors belonged to a sphere in which FJ parked the vessels which is obviously not the case here. For a sphere these doors are sort of inevitable but for the Jefferies pods I have some doubts concerning practicability, once opened these are obstacles to navigate around.

The TOS Enterprise's shuttlebay clamshell doors and those on the AMT model kit of Space Station K-7 were essentially vertical shutters.

When I look at these pods I can't help but think that horizontal shutters would be much more useful from a practical point of view.

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Old October 2 2013, 10:34 PM   #29
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Eh, I can live with the homage, but for some reason iris doors seem like they'd be imminently practical.

Fun idea for the inside of the pods.
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Old October 12 2013, 05:27 PM   #30
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I've never seen this concept design before, and I didn't know that the K-7 was based off of components from a rejected NASA design (thanks for that little factoid by the way). All and all, I think this a cool lil' thread.
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