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Old September 25 2013, 03:00 AM   #181
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Re: Spoilers in Books: A Discussion.

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I did report a spoiler the other day. It's still there. It's in a thread where it doesn't belong out in the open and yet nothing has been done about it.
Have you considered the possibility that the mods have reviewed the post in question and not deemed it a violation of board rules? And as others have suggested, why not try speaking with the mods directly via PM?
Exactly this, thank you.

JWolf - I did see your notification and I'm not changing the post. The problem with "being on your toes regarding spoilers" is that if you go around pointing out that something is a spoiler that makes it more of a spoiler than it was by itself because you've drawn attention to the fact that this information is important to the plot.

What you know is important as someone who's read the book is not going to be obvious to someone who hasn't read the book.


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Old September 25 2013, 02:45 PM   #182
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Re: Spoilers in Books: A Discussion.

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I did report a spoiler the other day. It's still there. It's in a thread where it doesn't belong out in the open and yet nothing has been done about it.
Have you considered the possibility that the mods have reviewed the post in question and not deemed it a violation of board rules? And as others have suggested, why not try speaking with the mods directly via PM?
Exactly this, thank you.

JWolf - I did see your notification and I'm not changing the post. The problem with "being on your toes regarding spoilers" is that if you go around pointing out that something is a spoiler that makes it more of a spoiler than it was by itself because you've drawn attention to the fact that this information is important to the plot.

What you know is important as someone who's read the book is not going to be obvious to someone who hasn't read the book.


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You don't have to have read the book. If you've been keeping up, you'll know that something changed just by reading that one line. That is a spoiler and if you have finished the book before Fall #1, you'll know that change happened in either Fall #1 or Fall #2. You won't know how or why, but you'll know it did happen.

That would be akin to
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Old September 25 2013, 02:50 PM   #183
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Re: Spoilers in Books: A Discussion.

No it's not akin to that. That's a lot more detail. And you are now revealing more about the discussion than I wanted. Please leave it, or take it to PM.
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Old September 28 2013, 09:27 PM   #184
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Re: Spoilers in Books: A Discussion.

Even if the the subject says no spoilers, if a thread is about a book I don't want a spoiler on I don't read it on the assumption someone may cross a line or give me more info than I want.

I'm not normally one to blame the victim but if someone is complaining about a spoiler post I ask myself a lot, "why are you reading a thread about a book you haven't read yet if you care that much about not reading spoilers?"
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Old September 28 2013, 11:04 PM   #185
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Re: Spoilers in Books: A Discussion.

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Even if the the subject says no spoilers, if a thread is about a book I don't want a spoiler on I don't read it on the assumption someone may cross a line or give me more info than I want.

I'm not normally one to blame the victim but if someone is complaining about a spoiler post I ask myself a lot, "why are you reading a thread about a book you haven't read yet if you care that much about not reading spoilers?"
Right. That would be like Scotty trying to drink real Scotch thinking he won't get a buzz.
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Old September 29 2013, 12:30 AM   #186
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Re: Spoilers in Books: A Discussion.

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Even if the the subject says no spoilers, if a thread is about a book I don't want a spoiler on I don't read it on the assumption someone may cross a line or give me more info than I want.

I'm not normally one to blame the victim but if someone is complaining about a spoiler post I ask myself a lot, "why are you reading a thread about a book you haven't read yet if you care that much about not reading spoilers?"
If the thread is not labeled as (Spoiler!) and there are open spoilers for the book(s) in the topic, someone who hasn't read the book could be spoiled. Also, I don't want to see open spoilers for other book(s) not specifically in the thread regardless of (Spoilers!) or not.
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Old September 29 2013, 12:36 AM   #187
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Re: Spoilers in Books: A Discussion.

Then maybe you should limit your thread-viewing to threads that specify NO SPOILERS.
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Old September 29 2013, 12:59 AM   #188
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Then maybe you should limit your thread-viewing to threads that specify NO SPOILERS.
I know there can be spoilers for the book(s) listed in the topic if the topic says there can be spoilers. But to then have a different book or books spoiled isn't right. People go into that thread knowing what to expect. They don't go in expecting a different book or books to be openly spoiled.
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Old September 29 2013, 01:49 AM   #189
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But to then have a different book or books spoiled isn't right. People go into that thread knowing what to expect. They don't go in expecting a different book or books to be openly spoiled.
And there are guidelines in place for that. Which most people follow very well.

The only other way to improve things would be for every entry made by members to be approved by a Mod before it is published in public. And that would require a rostered staff of paid employees, 24 hours a day, would it not?

Am I correct in remembering that you devour each book, in eBook form, the moment they are published, and the chance of you, personally, getting spoiled is practically zero?
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Old October 3 2013, 12:28 AM   #190
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Yes, you absolutely can!
But it won't be fixed if the spoiler is for something more than X months old, unless it's obvious trolling right (ie. spoiling in a 'should I buy this book?' thread)/.

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Haha, really?

Okay then [1] http://www.trekbbs.com/forumdisplay.php?f=43
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Old October 3 2013, 01:40 AM   #191
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Re: Spoilers in Books: A Discussion.

I don't see what that's supposed to illustrate...
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Old October 3 2013, 03:19 AM   #192
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Re: Spoilers in Books: A Discussion.

All I got was a link back to the forum's main page.
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Old October 3 2013, 05:08 PM   #193
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Re: Spoilers in Books: A Discussion.

Ditto
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Old October 3 2013, 06:53 PM   #194
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Re: Spoilers in Books: A Discussion.

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All I got was a link back to the forum's main page.
That's where you were supposed to go when you click the link, to show how claims of the forums decline due to spoiler issues is not true.
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Old October 3 2013, 07:08 PM   #195
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Except that the argument that was being made is that the forum -has- declined.
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