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Old September 27 2013, 05:29 AM   #121
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Re: Phase II - Act One of "KITUMBA"

Hear hear, let's get back to talking about "Kitumba" and the future of Phase II.

As a rank amateur video enthusiast, I'd like to hear more about the editing process for "Kitumba". What is it about the Sol 7 facility that's so special that it will help to speed along the editing process? And is this something the production team will continue to be able to take advantage of for future episodes?

(Oh, and if I can put my excited fanboy hat back on one last time, I want to second the others, Mr. Gerrold, on giving us "The Trouble With Tribbles", not to mention your vast collected non-Trek works. I bought the Making of The Trouble With Tribbles when I was nine years old and it's still one of my prize possessions, and I live in hope you will gift us someday with another entry in the Star Wolf or Chtorr series . But until then, it's great to see you at the helm of Phase II!
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Old September 27 2013, 07:32 AM   #122
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Re: Phase II - Act One of "KITUMBA"

Oh for crying out loud.

You guys make it sound like I was out for blood. I assure you, I am not. I've simply been curious about why, when all is said and done and the work has been completed and Phase II will obviously benefit from the work Vic did as the director of the episodes, he isn't going to be credited. It just strikes me as supremely immature and disingenuous.

I continue to wish them well. This isn't personal for me nor is it some vendetta. I just don't see how Phase II expects anyone to take them seriously as professionals when such a simple matter is handled so poorly.

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Old September 27 2013, 10:21 AM   #123
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Re: Phase II - Act One of "KITUMBA"

Frankly, I'm tired of the bickering between different fanfilm producers. I've heard many of them badmouthed or badmouth each other. This person took payment and didn't deliver what was promised. That person took what wasn't theirs. Blah blah blah. All it does is makes most of them look bad or petty.
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Old September 27 2013, 12:24 PM   #124
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Maurice - there´s a very simple solution - don´t read it...
I find it at least very entertaining - whcih might seem a bit cruel as some people really seem to have been hurt by what was going on.

Ultimately, I think it is the producers decision who gets credited for what - and he owes us absolutely no explanation - only to the people involved.
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Old September 27 2013, 01:11 PM   #125
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First off, this type of stuff is exactly why I no longer participate in forum boards. Since it is me who actually determines where these credits are placed I will tell you that Vic's name actually is placed in the first card at the end credits for Director and appears again as his character alongside the rest of the supporting cast. It does not appear at the head of the episode. David and I have both been very busy and we have not yet had time to discuss this particular issue and I thank him for jumping in here. While I will NEVER go into discussing private matters in a public forum, no matter what transpired with Vic, or my personal feelings toward him, I would never remove his name from the episode.
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Old September 27 2013, 02:36 PM   #126
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Thank you James.
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Old September 27 2013, 02:40 PM   #127
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James, thank you both for clearing this up, and for everything you've done over the years.

Maybe now we can all get back to discussing the episode, which I for one am really enjoying. I can't wait to see what the final color correction looks like, though I still expect it to be on the dark side. (Most episodes look a little dark to me).

It's also a good lesson on the importance of not rushing to judgment.
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Old September 27 2013, 03:18 PM   #128
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Yes, thank you James (and thank you for continuing to bring us Phase II!).
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Old September 27 2013, 03:38 PM   #129
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Re: Phase II - Act One of "KITUMBA"

Some good discussion is coming out of this thread. If nothing else, I'm learning that we're moving the director credit for "Kitumba" to the end of the episode instead of placing it at the opening like with TOS and our other episodes.

Personally, it's a challenging thread for me to moderate. I want to facilitate and foster discussion as I have here for years; I want to make sure that the discussion doesn't get extreme and that it remains, well, moderate. But I also want to support my fellow Phase II producers in no longer wanting to discuss some issues.

I'd like to recuse myself from moderator actions in this thread. I've asked the other TrekBBS moderators to take a peek at the thread and to insert themselves as necessary. I defer to their judgment on whether or not this thread needs any intervention. They will be better able than I am to determine if we have "concern trolling," or if, rather, we just have some people with resolve who have a contrary position.
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Old September 27 2013, 04:50 PM   #130
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Re: Phase II - Act One of "KITUMBA"

Too bad about Origins, that's one I'm really looking forward to. Keep up the good work!
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Old September 27 2013, 05:13 PM   #131
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Wait'll you see some of my latest matte shots for Kitumba.

You'll just DIE!
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Old September 27 2013, 06:36 PM   #132
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PonyHorton wrote: View Post
Wait'll you see some of my latest matte shots for Kitumba.

You'll just DIE!
I don't want to die - I want to watch all of Kitumba
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Old September 27 2013, 06:47 PM   #133
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Maurice - there´s a very simple solution - don´t read it...
That presumes that I only run into this on this forum.
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Old September 27 2013, 08:44 PM   #134
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Can I just jump in here to say I admired the VFX shots of the Klingon armada very much? Excellent work.
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Old September 27 2013, 10:08 PM   #135
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Thanks to David for his excellent input here. Whether it is on his Facebook page or on a forum, David continues to show me why he is such a great writer. It isn't just that he can write a great screenplay or novel, he can just flat out WRITE.

Also, thanks to James for clearing up the credit issue. I wasn't going to answer that since I had no input into that.

And I wish we could get Origins finished as it is Captain Garth's debut!

As to the question about Sol 7 and the edit of Kitumba. I was fortunate to be introduced to Mark Lewis by Richard Hatch. Mark is a composer, editor, sound editor and all around post production guru. He serves as Post Production Supervisor on Axanar and has graciously volunteered to edit Phase II.

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