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Old September 27 2013, 02:28 AM   #1366
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Old September 27 2013, 02:30 AM   #1367
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So.... not a Lois Lane fan then. Got it.
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Old September 27 2013, 02:35 AM   #1368
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Can't say I've ever heard Lois called "superbitch". Not even on the DC Comics message boards in the late 90s and the early 00s.
Are you serious? It was all over the official DC site's boards, especially post-"Our Worlds at War" and during Steven Seagle's run. I even saved entire forum discussions (copy-pasted into Microsoft Word) where it was used frequently in protest of Lois' behavior. The only way nobody would have heard it was if you weren't lurking or posting on the boards. Outside of the furor over the recent Superman movies or the Abrams Trek relaunch, I can't recall a forum subject that got people so angry.

Then again, I've encountered Superman fans who try to deny those stories even exist, or try to whitewash them to make Lois look good, so I shouldn't be surprised that the controversy eventually got buried.
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Old September 27 2013, 02:52 AM   #1369
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"Bitch" has too often been a sexist code word used to demonize women who dare to show any assertiveness or independence. So an argument that uses that slur three times in a single paragraph is immediately suspect. And given how much ingrained sexism there is in comics fandom, I'm not surprised that there would've been a segment of the fanbase attacking Lois in that way. When Star Trek: Voyager came along, there was a lot of comparably ugly rhetoric about Captain Janeway.
Voyager is my wife's favorite Trek precisely because of Janeway. The series fault aside, Janeway is a great character. She is a strong and tough, but compassionate leader who is not afraid of her own emotions.

Being married to a tough, independent woman myself I don't see much wrong with Lois portrayal in most of those stories (although I do admit that sometimes she did fall victim to poor writing). She is a hard-nosed reporter who is hungry for a story and when done well she is hungry for a story out of a sense of justice, not a glory-seeker. This is where many of the movies got her wrong, I think.
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Old September 27 2013, 04:12 AM   #1370
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I think my favorite Lois Lane moment is in Superman: TAS's "A Little Piece of Home" by the late Hilary J. Bader. When Clark is exposed to a sliver of kryptonite Lois has, he feels faint and looks sickly, and before Lois leaves to pursue her story, she crisply, curtly instructs the waitress to bring him chicken soup and tea. Her manner is as tough and no-nonsense as ever, but she's instinctively taking care of Clark, showing compassion through her deeds if not through her words and manner. And it's just so matter-of-fact and automatic, a throwaway moment that says something profound about her. S:TAS's Lois was very protective of Clark, and there's a charming irony in that.
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Old September 27 2013, 04:27 AM   #1371
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Can't say I've ever heard Lois called "superbitch". Not even on the DC Comics message boards in the late 90s and the early 00s.
Are you serious? It was all over the official DC site's boards, especially post-"Our Worlds at War" and during Steven Seagle's run. I even saved entire forum discussions (copy-pasted into Microsoft Word) where it was used frequently in protest of Lois' behavior. The only way nobody would have heard it was if you weren't lurking or posting on the boards. Outside of the furor over the recent Superman movies or the Abrams Trek relaunch, I can't recall a forum subject that got people so angry.

Then again, I've encountered Superman fans who try to deny those stories even exist, or try to whitewash them to make Lois look good, so I shouldn't be surprised that the controversy eventually got buried.
I was a member. Posted, but not that often in the Superman forums. Maybe I've forgotten the uproar.

Copy and pasted the the forum discussion and saved them? Seriously?
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Old September 27 2013, 05:12 AM   #1372
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There are headlines everywhere tonight about William Shatner playing Alfred in the movie.
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Old September 27 2013, 05:32 AM   #1373
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Because nothing says "British Gentleman's Gentleman" like William Shatner.
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Old September 27 2013, 05:54 AM   #1374
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Old September 27 2013, 04:33 PM   #1375
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Old September 28 2013, 06:21 AM   #1376
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There are headlines everywhere tonight about William Shatner playing Alfred in the movie.
No, just no.
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Old September 28 2013, 11:42 AM   #1377
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"Bitch" has too often been a sexist code word used to demonize women who dare to show any assertiveness or independence. So an argument that uses that slur three times in a single paragraph is immediately suspect.
"Bitch" is most often used to denote arrogance/hostility/etc. NOT desirable traits - in men or women. And that's how the attribute was used by the poster you attacked.

Also, your argument which consists of throwing a politically correct label/ad personam with nothing to support it is the one immediately suspect.
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Old October 19 2013, 01:39 AM   #1378
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The Superman/Batman film we need AND deserve has finally arrived!

... Er, make that Superman/Badman, of course.
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Old October 19 2013, 02:31 AM   #1379
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"Bitch" has too often been a sexist code word used to demonize women who dare to show any assertiveness or independence. So an argument that uses that slur three times in a single paragraph is immediately suspect.
"Bitch" is most often used to denote arrogance/hostility/etc. NOT desirable traits - in men or women. And that's how the attribute was used by the poster you attacked.

Also, your argument which consists of throwing a politically correct label/ad personam with nothing to support it is the one immediately suspect.

You call that an attack? You must be new to the internet...
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Old October 19 2013, 01:32 PM   #1380
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Somewhat surprisingly, it seems that filming has commenced on this movie. But before you all get excited for shots of Affleck in costume, it's just of a real-life football match, which will double for a match within the film. Metropolis v Gotham teams perhaps?

http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=110405
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