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Old September 24 2013, 06:18 PM   #16
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Re: The Opening Of Star Trek 3

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I admit that Abrams and Orci know how to open a movie.
In hindsight, yes. Trek 2009 was to open with Spock's birth, not the space battle. And Trek 2013 was to open with the dying girl, not the volcano. They only know how to properly open a movie in the editing room.
I think STiD opening with the hospital sequence was only done for the 9 minute preview, to establish the enemy. They likely were going with all-Nibiru from the start.
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Old September 24 2013, 07:35 PM   #17
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Plus the 9 minute preview ended with the Spock in a volcano cliffhanger.
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Old September 24 2013, 07:52 PM   #18
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I admit that Abrams and Orci know how to open a movie.
In hindsight, yes. Trek 2009 was to open with Spock's birth, not the space battle. And Trek 2013 was to open with the dying girl, not the volcano. They only know how to properly open a movie in the editing room.
Phew, that was a close call. You almost accidentally slammed into a grudging compliment there, but at the last second you pulled some serious negative g's and got back on course to being relentlessly pessimistic.
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Old September 25 2013, 10:56 PM   #19
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I want to see the third movie open up with a sorely pissed-off Gaila transferred to the Enterprise.

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Old September 26 2013, 03:25 AM   #20
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Open with the Klingons dealing with something, that'd be cool.
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Old September 26 2013, 04:12 AM   #21
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It should open up with the Enterprise and the badly damaged Constellation locked in a losing battle against the reimagined Doomsday Machine. This time around, though, the recently relieved of command Commodore Decker doesn't get a chance to steal a shuttlecraft ("Cupcake" stuns him with a phaser instead), leaving Kirk to figure out on his own how to beat the D-Machine.
Cupcake be dead
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Old September 26 2013, 06:54 AM   #22
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Re: The Opening Of Star Trek 3

Maybe he's defrosting?
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Old September 26 2013, 07:17 PM   #23
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It should open up with the Enterprise and the badly damaged Constellation locked in a losing battle against the reimagined Doomsday Machine. This time around, though, the recently relieved of command Commodore Decker doesn't get a chance to steal a shuttlecraft ("Cupcake" stuns him with a phaser instead), leaving Kirk to figure out on his own how to beat the D-Machine.
Cupcake be dead
When be that happen?
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Old September 26 2013, 07:30 PM   #24
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I admit that Abrams and Orci know how to open a movie.
In hindsight, yes. Trek 2009 was to open with Spock's birth, not the space battle. And Trek 2013 was to open with the dying girl, not the volcano. They only know how to properly open a movie in the editing room.
Every filmmaker tweaks scene order for pacing reasons. That's what the editing process is for.

I get that you're on a mission from God to criticize the Abrams films but this is quite possibly the dumbest thing I've ever read in this forum.

That's an achievement, I guess.
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Old September 26 2013, 08:30 PM   #25
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How about opening the movie with young Kirk and older Kirk meeting each other in the Nexus having a discussion about young Kirk's future, after all, it is his "echo" that is still left in there just like it is for Guinan. Older Kirk telling younger Kirk not to let Starfleet get in the way of a happy home and to go marry Carol and make it work.
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Old September 26 2013, 08:35 PM   #26
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How about opening the movie with young Kirk and older Kirk meeting each other in the Nexus having a discussion about young Kirk's future, after all, it is his "echo" that is still left in there just like it is for Guinan. Older Kirk telling younger Kirk not to let Starfleet get in the way of a happy home and to go marry Carol and make it work.
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Old September 26 2013, 08:43 PM   #27
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A lot of people have talked about how much they enjoyed the opening of STID (myself included)
And furthermore, now that they are on the 5 year mission would you like to see the opening be the tail end of a TOS mission we've already seen, so long as it just serves as an introduction to the film and isn't a remake of any kind?

For me personally that is the kind of fan service I can get into. A real nod that doesn't really effect plot, is fresh to a new audience, and can be a fun and exciting way to kick off a film (much like it did in STID).
that would be a neat idea. i like it. spock - "cross circuiting to b". kirk - "gentlemen, i suggest you beam me aboard"!
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Old September 26 2013, 09:28 PM   #28
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How about opening the movie with young Kirk and older Kirk meeting each other in the Nexus
That won't work unless they are riding horses with Picard.
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Old September 26 2013, 10:01 PM   #29
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It should open up with the Enterprise and the badly damaged Constellation locked in a losing battle against the reimagined Doomsday Machine. This time around, though, the recently relieved of command Commodore Decker doesn't get a chance to steal a shuttlecraft ("Cupcake" stuns him with a phaser instead), leaving Kirk to figure out on his own how to beat the D-Machine.
Cupcake be dead
Only in the novelization, where he was killed by a Klingon with a bat'leth. In the movie he's shown in the security detail escorting the captured Harrison aboard the Enterprise.

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Old September 26 2013, 11:53 PM   #30
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It should open up with the Enterprise and the badly damaged Constellation locked in a losing battle against the reimagined Doomsday Machine. This time around, though, the recently relieved of command Commodore Decker doesn't get a chance to steal a shuttlecraft ("Cupcake" stuns him with a phaser instead), leaving Kirk to figure out on his own how to beat the D-Machine.
Cupcake be dead
Only in the novelization, where he was killed by a Klingon with a bat'leth. In the movie he's shown in the security detail escorting the captured Harrison aboard the Enterprise.

Oh, Cupcake be not dead then.
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