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View Poll Results: Rate The Crimson Shadow.
Outstanding 69 67.65%
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Old September 24 2013, 09:39 PM   #46
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Old September 24 2013, 09:43 PM   #47
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Thank you! I wasn't able to type out the russian characters.
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Old September 24 2013, 09:44 PM   #48
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I am saving this one for next week. My wife and I are going on a 7-day Bahama cruise and I'll be reading this on the cruise.
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Old September 25 2013, 01:14 AM   #49
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Old September 25 2013, 02:12 AM   #50
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Old September 25 2013, 04:14 AM   #51
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Old September 25 2013, 09:36 AM   #52
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A few chapters in and to be honest I don't want McCormack to write any more Star Trek franchise fiction, I'd rather she was too successful with her own work to have the time - the quality of her prose is in a different league to the workmanlike stuff we get from some of the tie-in writers.
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Old September 25 2013, 09:40 AM   #53
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A few chapters in and to be honest I don't want McCormack to write any more Star Trek franchise fiction, I'd rather she was too successful with her own work to have the time - the quality of her prose is in a different league to the workmanlike stuff we get from some of the tie-in writers.
Is that a compliment?

I plan on reading this once I've finished reading what I'm reading now and I'm hoping that this story is a lot better than the previous one.
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Old September 25 2013, 10:01 AM   #54
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Dimesdan wrote: View Post
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A few chapters in and to be honest I don't want McCormack to write any more Star Trek franchise fiction, I'd rather she was too successful with her own work to have the time - the quality of her prose is in a different league to the workmanlike stuff we get from some of the tie-in writers.
Is that a compliment?

I plan on reading this once I've finished reading what I'm reading now and I'm hoping that this story is a lot better than the previous one.
Of course, I just think she has a writing style and sensibility that is frankly too good to be wasted on McFiction (as much as I enjoy McFiction and enjoy reading it in the same way I like the odd donner kebab).
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Old September 25 2013, 10:57 AM   #55
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Re: TF: The Crimson Shadow by Una McCormack - Review Thread (Spoilers!

^ I don't think I've seen you pay anyone a complement ever in this, or the other sections of the board.
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Old September 25 2013, 03:56 PM   #56
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It's misguided to assume that all tie-in fiction has to be "McFiction" just because it isn't original work. Sure, there has been a fair amount of tie-in fiction like that, but I think Trek Lit has proven over the past dozen years that it can be much more than that. It's a fallacy that creators have to lower their standards just because they're writing characters and worlds they didn't create themselves. I for one have always striven to approach my tie-in work with the same standards I'd bring to my original work, insofar as deadlines allow. After all, my tie-ins are potentially a promotion for my original work; I want people who read them to find my writing memorable enough that they'd seek out other fiction under my name. It would be self-defeating to approach them halfheartedly.
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Old September 25 2013, 04:29 PM   #57
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It's misguided to assume that all tie-in fiction has to be "McFiction" just because it isn't original work. Sure, there has been a fair amount of tie-in fiction like that, but I think Trek Lit has proven over the past dozen years that it can be much more than that. It's a fallacy that creators have to lower their standards just because they're writing characters and worlds they didn't create themselves. I for one have always striven to approach my tie-in work with the same standards I'd bring to my original work, insofar as deadlines allow. After all, my tie-ins are potentially a promotion for my original work; I want people who read them to find my writing memorable enough that they'd seek out other fiction under my name. It would be self-defeating to approach them halfheartedly.
I'm really not sure that's what Joe meant, I think he may have been referring to the overall quality of some stories being, well shite and TCS not being shite.
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Old September 25 2013, 08:35 PM   #58
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About a third in and just not that interesting. Maybe things will improve soon?
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Old September 26 2013, 04:45 AM   #59
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Wow - I just finished it about 10 minutes ago, still processing. I pretty much picked it up and didn't set it down till the end - the story was so engaging. Such a great look at Cardassia, great look at Garak (the letters he wrote at the beginning of the chapters were a nice touch).

I voted Outstanding. It was an improvement on Revelation and Dust, and I am really excited to see where The Fall takes us next.
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Old September 26 2013, 05:07 AM   #60
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About a third in and just not that interesting. Maybe things will improve soon?
Yes, in a "hit you over the head" sort of way.

Much as I prefer plot over character, McCormack makes me like character. Sorry, but DRGIII is way too character-oriented an author for me.
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