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Old September 24 2013, 04:01 PM   #136
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Re: Dexter - The Final Season (Spoiler Discussion)

wow, absolutely terrible ending. A bit of a cop out too.
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Old September 24 2013, 04:48 PM   #137
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It sure leaves the door open to the viewer writing their own continuation of the Dexter story...
Since his record is still inexplicably and inexcusably clean, I want to see him branch out into advertising:



Maybe take out rival cleaning product mascots like the sinister serial killer Mr. Clean and the infamous Snuggle, who strangles his victims to death with their own snuggily soft bedsheets.



And if that falls through, maybe he can get a job with the NOAA or the National Weather Service as a stormchaser, since he can apparently survive hurricanes and tornadoes without any protection.
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Old September 24 2013, 04:56 PM   #138
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The more I think about it the more it seems like this finale wasn't the finale they first planned. This episode could easily have been written differently to lead into an 8th and final season, which I believe they were planning at one point. This could explain the slower pace and extra stuff they threw at us like Masuka's daughter.

Of course I could be completely wrong.
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Old September 24 2013, 05:12 PM   #139
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Am I mistaken, or wasn't Dexter at one point concerned that Harrison might end up like him since they were both born in blood (Harrison in Rita's bathtub blood)? So now I guess Dexter doesn't give two shits if Harrison becomes a serial killer and get caught?
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Old September 24 2013, 05:24 PM   #140
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Am I mistaken, or wasn't Dexter at one point concerned that Harrison might end up like him since they were both born in blood (Harrison in Rita's bathtub blood)? So now I guess Dexter doesn't give two shits if Harrison becomes a serial killer and get caught?
Well, he's being raised by a serial killer single adoptive mom who barely knows him and is on the run from the law, so what could possibly go wrong?
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Old September 24 2013, 07:59 PM   #141
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"I haven't shared this with anyone," Philips told me. "And I can tell you that this is what I personally would have done should I have stayed with the show. I chose not to stay with the show, and so everybody did what they did, and I had no problem with that…and I think they did a good job with the final episode. But here is what I personally would have pitched."

"In the very last scene of the series," Philips explained, "Dexter wakes up. And everybody is going to think, 'Oh, it was a dream.' And then the camera pulls back and back and back and then we realize, 'No, it's not a dream.' Dexter's opening his eyes and he's on the execution table at the Florida Penitentiary. They're just starting to administer the drugs and he looks out through the window to the observation gallery.
"And in the gallery are all the people that Dexter killed—including the Trinity Killer and the Ice Truck Killer (his brother Rudy), LaGuerta who he was responsible killing, Doakes who he's arguably responsible for, Rita, who he's arguably responsible for, Lila. All the big deaths, and also whoever the weekly episodic kills were. They are all there.
"That's what I envisioned for the ending of Dexter. That everything we've seen over the past eight seasons has happened in the several seconds from the time they start Dexter's execution to the time they finish the execution and he dies. Literally, his life flashed before his eyes as he was about to die. I think it would have been a great, epic, very satisfying conclusion."
Wow, that's a much, much better ending.

Also, I had no idea the creator of the show left after the fourth season. That explains the sudden drop off and subsequent descent in the quality of writing on the show.

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I thought this was one of the better episodes of the season from an emotional (rather than logical) standpoint. Unfortunately, that's not saying much in this godawful mess of a final season full of missed and misused opportunities (did we really need Masuka's daughter, Quinn and Jaime's relationship woes, Young Indiana Jones, the multiple fake out Brain Surgeons, Dexter dating the neighbor, Dexter's apprentice, Quinn's quest for sergeant against the lady who completely disappeared after being promoted, Hannah's abusive husband, the US Marshal, etc.? What a bunch of extraneous filler).

The worst parts of the episode for me:

- Is Dexter Superman all of a sudden? How exactly was he supposed to have escaped unscathed from sailing his tiny boat directly into the hurricane, where it was destroyed? Did he swim miles back to shore in hurricane force winds and waves?

- Is Dexter the Invisible Man all of a sudden? It was bad enough that he took Debra off life support and all of her vitals monitors without anyone at the hospital responding, but then he --in plain clothes-- wheels her out, picks her up, takes her down to the dock, and just sails away with her body. I get that there was a hurricane incoming, but that was ridiculous.

- So Harrison is better off living with a serial killer who has a history of poisoning people close to her, and who has now lost the one person she loves who acted as a stabilizing influence on her? Better than living with his grandparents? Or Jaime? Or Batista? Or a pack of wolves? Or just about anyone else but Hannah? It's totally out of character for Dexter to just entrust the care of his son to even someone he loves like Hannah, especially after she's clearly still unstable given her poisoning of Dex and Deb and desire to murder her husband, abusive bastard or not. What happens when Harrison gets to the age where he starts to talk back to her and Dex isn't there to keep her under control?

- I love Batista, but my god he's the worst detective in the world. It's a wonder Miami Metro PD even has a 20% clearance rate. I thought finally something was going to click after he saw the way Dexter dispatched Saxon, but other than a little confusion and a furrowed brow, Batista let it be. Quinn knew it was a straight up revenge murder, but he was fine with that. Batista wasn't however, but still let himself be talked out of finding anything wrong by Quinn and Dexter.

- I don't mind the idea of Debra dying, but not like that. I'll grant it was a surprising twist, but I would have preferred a more meaningful and poignant exit for her character than to have her suffer a stroke offcreen. Though it was still sad to see her go.

- Why did Young Indiana Jones feel it was a good idea to ride on the bus with Hannah all the way up to Daytona when he confronted her before the bus was even moving? It's not like they were on a plane that's pulled away from the terminal. Just grab her and Harrison and hop off the bus. Of course she's going to try and make a move if you leave her uncuffed on a long bus ride.
That completely sums up everything I hated about this finale (except someone else's comment about Harrison having more family than just Dexter and Debra and they were completely forgotten about as they and Rita have been for the last two seasons). Thank you for writing it for me.
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Old September 24 2013, 08:10 PM   #142
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Also, I had no idea the creator of the show left after the fourth season. That explains the sudden drop off and subsequent descent in the quality of writing on the show.
The show was developed by James Manos, Jr., who ran the show in the first season. Philips (who joined midway through season one) became the showrunner beginning in the second season.

Ultimately the show had four showrunners:

James Manos, Jr. (season 1)
Clyde Philips (seasons 2-4)
Chip Johannessen (season 5)
Scott Buck (seasons 6-8)

Honestly, I'd say the show dropped in quality each time the reins changed hands.
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Old September 24 2013, 08:21 PM   #143
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Also, I had no idea the creator of the show left after the fourth season. That explains the sudden drop off and subsequent descent in the quality of writing on the show.
The show was developed by James Manos, Jr., who ran the show in the first season. Philips (who joined midway through season one) became the showrunner beginning in the second season.

Ultimately the show had four showrunners:

James Manos, Jr. (season 1)
Clyde Philips (seasons 2-4)
Chip Johannessen (season 5)
Scott Buck (seasons 6-8)

Honestly, I'd say the show dropped in quality each time the reins changed hands.
Fair enough, but there certainly was a major drop in quality after Philips left.
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Old September 24 2013, 08:22 PM   #144
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Oh, certainly. I stuck through seasons five and six, but left after that. It was just too awful.

Honestly, the show started to fall apart beginning in season three, but the presence of Jimmy Smits and then John Lithgow managed to hold it all together.
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Old September 24 2013, 10:58 PM   #145
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Angel's sister? She just floated away from relevance back to being again only a baby sitter. Don't show me an actresses' naked boobies if you don't want me to focus on her storyline!
The writers get a pass on this one because you never saw full boobage. You got "there's clearly another observer in the room filming things, so I'm going to awkwardly obscure my breasts with my hands and arms" glimpses of side boob at best.
The rule seems to be never to show the boobs of anyone we are supposed to care about. I don't think we ever saw the boobs of Jamie, Deb, Rita, Hannah, Lumen, LaGuerta, or any other major character except villains (Trinity's daughter and Dexter's crazy NA sponsor).
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Old September 24 2013, 11:43 PM   #146
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I watched the free preview that came a week early.

They put black out strips over her boobs, claiming that if you subscribe to showtime that you will be able to see her tits fiiiiiiiiiiiinally.

She was more intriguing on Vegas in period costume.
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Old September 25 2013, 01:11 AM   #147
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The rule seems to be never to show the boobs of anyone we are supposed to care about. I don't think we ever saw the boobs of Jamie, Deb, Rita, Hannah, Lumen, LaGuerta, or any other major character except villains (Trinity's daughter and Dexter's crazy NA sponsor).
They've definitely shown Jamie's and Rita's. I can't remember if the others ever showed up, but I distinctly remember those two being nude.
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Old September 25 2013, 04:33 AM   #148
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It's kind of hard to put into words how stupid that was.
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Old September 26 2013, 07:58 AM   #149
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Have you ever watched porn in fastrewind?
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It sure leaves the door open to the viewer writing their own continuation of the Dexter story...
Since his record is still inexplicably and inexcusably clean, I want to see him branch out into advertising:



Maybe take out rival cleaning product mascots like the sinister serial killer Mr. Clean and the infamous Snuggle, who strangles his victims to death with their own snuggily soft bedsheets.



And if that falls through, maybe he can get a job with the NOAA or the National Weather Service as a stormchaser, since he can apparently survive hurricanes and tornadoes without any protection.
They should've played the lumberjack song at the end...
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