RSS iconTwitter iconFacebook icon

The Trek BBS title image

The Trek BBS statistics

Threads: 135,773
Posts: 5,216,857
Members: 24,218
Currently online: 698
Newest member: momogila

TrekToday headlines

Q Meets NuTrek Crew
By: T'Bonz on Apr 18

Pine In Talks For Drama
By: T'Bonz on Apr 18

New X-Men: Days of Future Past Trailer
By: T'Bonz on Apr 17

Nimoy to Receive Award
By: T'Bonz on Apr 17

Star Trek Special: Flesh and Stone Comic
By: T'Bonz on Apr 16

These Are The Voyages TOS Season Two Book Review
By: T'Bonz on Apr 16

Kirk’s Well Wishes To Kirk
By: T'Bonz on Apr 15

Quinto In New Starz Series
By: T'Bonz on Apr 15

Star Trek: Horizon Film
By: T'Bonz on Apr 14

Star Trek: Fleet Captains Game Expansion
By: T'Bonz on Apr 14


Welcome! The Trek BBS is the number one place to chat about Star Trek with like-minded fans. Please login to see our full range of forums as well as the ability to send and receive private messages, track your favourite topics and of course join in the discussions.

If you are a new visitor, join us for free. If you are an existing member please login below. Note: for members who joined under our old messageboard system, please login with your display name not your login name.


Go Back   The Trek BBS > Misc. Star Trek > Trek Literature

Trek Literature "...Good words. That's where ideas begin."

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old September 20 2013, 02:56 PM   #16
Markonian
Captain
 
Markonian's Avatar
 
Location: Leipzig, Saxony
Re: Abrams' Alternate Reality/Shatnerverse similarities

I am reserving judgement about the issue but would like to point out two additional non-canon sources for the V'ger-Borg connection:

Star Trek: Legacy represented V'ger as a mal-programmed machine that built Borg to assimilate all universal knowledge. The carbon-based Borg, however, rebelled.

Star Trek Online does not reference any specific origin story but the Borg have copied the design, which conceivably they could've taken from Starfleet databases. (Remember how Starfleet employs the Dauntless-class in a possible future?)
__________________
1.000 years: University Leipzig, 1409-2409
Gorn to be wild!
Markonian is offline   Reply With Quote
Old September 21 2013, 12:43 AM   #17
BillJ
Admiral
 
Location: In the 23rd Century...
View BillJ's Twitter Profile
Re: Abrams' Alternate Reality/Shatnerverse similarities

I never liked when fans tried to connect V'ger and the Borg, but that pic is pretty cool.
__________________
I'm not popular enough to be different! - Homer Simpson
BillJ is offline   Reply With Quote
Old September 21 2013, 08:34 PM   #18
Stevil2001
Rear Admiral
 
Stevil2001's Avatar
 
Location: 2010
Re: Abrams' Alternate Reality/Shatnerverse similarities

BillJ wrote: View Post
I never liked when fans tried to connect V'ger and the Borg, but that pic is pretty cool.
Indeed it is.

I think the Okuda Chronology referenced the theory in its entry for V'Ger's departure from the solar system.
__________________
"All of time and space. Everywhere and anywhere, every star that ever was. Where do you want to start?"
Exploring the Universe
Stevil2001 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old September 21 2013, 09:36 PM   #19
publiusr
Commodore
 
Re: Abrams' Alternate Reality/Shatnerverse similarities

Christopher wrote: View Post

FreddyE wrote: View Post
Where did that "V´Ger and the Borg are somehow connected"-notion originate anyway?
I'm sure plenty of people came up with the idea independently. Like I said, lots of fans try to find patterns or connections.

Like canals or faces on Mars

Christopher wrote: View Post
It's what leads fans to want to see crossovers between Star Trek and Aliens or DC and Marvel.
No problem with that.

You might have a post TMP V'ger homeworld where it is dormant--the entity having ascended, ad the Borg getting the shell, if you must.
publiusr is offline   Reply With Quote
Old September 21 2013, 11:34 PM   #20
Christopher
Writer
 
Christopher's Avatar
 
Re: Abrams' Alternate Reality/Shatnerverse similarities

^V'Ger and the Machine Planet are two different things. V'Ger itself ascended and disappeared; that's got nothing to do with the Machine Planet.

And again, nobody seems to be getting this: Borg technology is primitive compared to V'Ger's. Just because they both have cybernetic technology does not mean those technologies are remotely comparable.
__________________
Christopher L. Bennett Homepage -- Site update 4/8/14 including annotations for Rise of the Federation: Tower of Babel

Written Worlds -- My blog
Christopher is offline   Reply With Quote
Old September 22 2013, 07:45 PM   #21
Sci
Admiral
 
Sci's Avatar
 
Location: State of Maryland/District of Columbia
Re: Abrams' Alternate Reality/Shatnerverse similarities

In any event, IIRC, Cold Equations established pretty definitively that V'Ger had its origins in the Body Electric, not the Borg -- whose origins are found in the Caeliar.
__________________
This dream must end, this world must know:
We all depend on the beast below.
Sci is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump



All times are GMT +1. The time now is 10:49 AM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.6
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
FireFox 2+ or Internet Explorer 7+ highly recommended.