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Old September 22 2013, 01:54 AM   #151
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Re: Season FIVE OFFICIAL TNG Blu-Ray Discussion Thread

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Soooooo....did they fix the phaser shot in Darmok or not?
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Soooooo....did they fix the phaser shot in Darmok or not?
We'll know when Season 5 becomes available. He said "we're capped up TO Season 5," not "THROUGH Season 5".
Right.

Although I think it's safe to say that it no longer comes from a torpedo launcher ;-)
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Old September 22 2013, 08:05 PM   #152
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Although I think it's safe to say that it no longer comes from a torpedo launcher ;-)
But I like that shot.
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Old September 22 2013, 08:28 PM   #153
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I like that shot.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2yqUpypQwGs
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Old September 23 2013, 05:30 PM   #154
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Re: Season FIVE OFFICIAL TNG Blu-Ray Discussion Thread

I wasn't asking Frontier Trek, otherwise I would've quoted him or named him

I just keep forgetting to check this thread and when I come back there's pages and pages worth of info to sift though, so thought I'd just be blunt and cut to the chase

But...the wait goes on

When it comes to phaser errors, I've noticed CBS has been going back and adding the charging "pulse" that runs around the phaser strip before firing back into episodes where that particular FX team forgot or didn't realise they had to put it in.

Yesterday's Enterprise was a good example of this.

So in that regard, yes....I have every faith the phaser strip will be used this time
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Old September 24 2013, 02:49 PM   #155
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I wonder if they'll use the same shot. There isn't a lot of phaser strip in view on the original shot.
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Old September 25 2013, 01:22 AM   #156
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I wonder if they'll use the same shot. There isn't a lot of phaser strip in view on the original shot.
Sadly not.
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Old September 25 2013, 01:42 PM   #157
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Was it replaced with CGI? Odd, since there is a phaser strip on the lower part of the ship.
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Old September 25 2013, 02:21 PM   #158
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Was it replaced with CGI? Odd, since there is a phaser strip on the lower part of the ship.
The Tamarian ship is "above" the Enterprise, which requires the beam to travel at an upward angle - the lower saucer phaser strip could only shoot to a max inclination of 0-degrees (straight ahead) before carving into the saucer itself.
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Old September 25 2013, 02:28 PM   #159
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Was it replaced with CGI? Odd, since there is a phaser strip on the lower part of the ship.
The Tamarian ship is "above" the Enterprise, which requires the beam to travel at an upward angle - the lower saucer phaser strip could only shoot to a max inclination of 0-degrees (straight ahead) before carving into the saucer itself.
Ahhh, I understand. It has been years since I've seen the episode, so I couldn't remember what was happening in that section. So I suspect they've changed it to a shot coming from the topside of the saucer?

Hopefully the replacement looks good.
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Old September 26 2013, 05:05 PM   #160
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It would be nice if they used a different angle of one of the model shots as opposed to replacing it with CGI.
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Old September 28 2013, 11:13 AM   #161
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Yes, it's not CGI. Although with the new CGI model they have, I would be happy for them to use that... it's astounding.
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Old September 28 2013, 01:16 PM   #162
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Yes, it's not CGI. Although with the new CGI model they have, I would be happy for them to use that... it's astounding.
Given the quality of the CGI model, I am happy with either replacement for that shot. Curious to see what they replaced it with though.
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Old September 29 2013, 12:27 AM   #163
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Having just looked at the episode once again, I'd forgotten that we're talking about two shots here, not just one. One wider, the other closer. So hopefully they've found two alternative shots that also vary their angle and field of view accordingly.

Also, another thing I hadn't noticed before is that when the Tamarian ship fires back at the Enterprise's starboard nacelle, the direction of the beam doesn't make sense. When the Enterprise fires, the beam travels from roughly the center of the screen to the upper right and the next shot shows the beam appearing from the lower left side of the frame and hitting the Tamarian ship several times in different locations. So far, so good. Other than the fact than a phaser beam is coming from the torpedo launcher, it makes sense spatially. The beam is traveling in the same direction both times.

But then when the Tamarian ship fires back, it's nose is in the upper right quadrant of the frame and a green phaser beam fires downward, disappearing beyond the right side of the frame. Then, in the next cut, the Enterprise is hit... but the beam is coming from the upper right corner of the frame. This doesn't make much sense.

In order to fix this, CBS-Digital could simply flip the previous shot of the Tamarian ship horizontally like this so that it's nose is pointed toward the upper left of the frame, and the beam toward the Enterprise.
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Old October 2 2013, 07:35 AM   #164
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I'm just surprised that such an obvious vfx mistake made it on-screen during the shows fifth year. They had tons of experience. What happened here?
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Old October 2 2013, 05:09 PM   #165
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It is pretty puzzling that they could have made such a glaring mistake that far into the series, isn't it?
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