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Old May 25 2013, 05:15 AM   #1366
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Re: Niners Unite...around Babylon 5! - The Lost Threads

I really like B5 but its difficult at first when you see just how awful the CGI is, not to mention the flimsy sets made of cardboard. The Centauri throne room set was a fucking joke.
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Old May 25 2013, 08:31 AM   #1367
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when you see just how awful the CGI is
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Old May 26 2013, 05:33 AM   #1368
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I would actually like to see B5 remastered, but I don't think there's big enough of a following for WB to do it.
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Old May 26 2013, 10:18 PM   #1369
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I explains the slick CGI as certain types of metals myself,
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Old May 28 2013, 08:04 AM   #1370
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Pardon the thread highjack but I feel this is important and there may be folks here who might not see the other thread downstream. JMS called a special panel in order to pay tribute to Rick Biggs, Andreas Katsulas, Jeff Conaway and, especially, Michael O'Hare.

There's a report about it here and the audio portion of JMS talking about Michael's struggle.
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Hollywo...-ComiCon-Panel

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Old May 28 2013, 09:11 AM   #1371
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I would actually like to see B5 remastered, but I don't think there's big enough of a following for WB to do it.
Not to mention that the original VFX files/models have been lost.

The best you're ever likely to get would be a remaster of the existing (does it still exist?) live action footage, with upscaled VFX, much in the same way that Firefly on BD was handled. There is an additional problem though - the composite shots were rendered at 720 x 480 pixels (for 4:3) - That gives you problems if you try and change the aspect ratio like they did on the DVDs (16:9) as there's no way of doing that without impairing the video quality.

Hence, the only way the series could be remastered, without going back and doing the composite VFX and re-rendering them, would be to retain the 4:3 aspect ratio (like the TNG BDs), and upscale the VFX and composite shots.

But then you're back to your point WBs would never do it because they don't seem to think that there's enough people to worry much about B5 anymore.
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Old June 3 2013, 06:54 PM   #1372
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^If memory serves, I think even some of the live action footage has been lost/damaged due to poor storage. No idea how much or how badly, but I recall rodents were involved.

So yeah, whichever way you cut it, a HD remastering of B5 has all kinds of obstacles, not the least of which is WB not having a clue what they have or what to do with it.
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Old June 3 2013, 07:21 PM   #1373
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The rodents ate some of the negatives to "The Gathering," but most of it must have been intact, since JMS was still able to re-edit it to create the special edition after making the rodent discovery. I don't think I've read about any further damage to the series negatives, but it's possible.

In any event, Babylon 5 has a limited (and diminishing) fan base, and isn't currently playing in syndication (wasn't it also pulled from Netflix streaming?). The lack of interest from Warner Bros. comes as no surprise, really.

This is a shame, really, as I'd pay a pretty penny to see the series in HD. Heck, I'd be happy to see it (again) on DVD, if they bothered to release it in its original aspect ratio.
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Old September 21 2013, 10:08 AM   #1374
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I think its sad too, because Babylon 5 is my 2nd favorite sci-fi series. I bet you throw this show onto a network prime time, it would suddenly get a huge following. IT has the story arc to keep interest of any drama on tv.

I didnt take time to look at all 92 pages of this thread. So This quote has probably been already posted, but I think its so good, that if it has, it deserves to be quoted again, and it my favorite quote from anything.

I believe that when we leave a place, part of it goes with us and part of us remains. Go anywhere in the station when it is quiet, and just listen. After a while, you will hear the echoes of all our conversations, every thought and word we've exchanged. Long after we are gone, our voices will linger in these walls for as long as this place remains. But I will admit that the part of me that is going will very much miss the part of you that is staying.
-G'kar -Babylon 5

That quote stirs deep thoughts in me.

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Old December 4 2013, 12:14 AM   #1375
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Well I am slowly making my way through the series. According to my earlier post, I started watching season 1 in August 2012, and I finished Season 2 sunday night, December 1, 2013. I have season 3 on order from Amazon and should have it by this weekend. It was a little slow in ramping up, but I'm really enjoying it now. Sadly I don't have a lot of time to watch, but hopefully I can get through season 3 by the end of February.
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Old February 21 2014, 07:53 PM   #1376
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Just finished Season 3s War Without End part 2. This show is really picking up steam, and I'm really enjoying how they're connecting the dots between things that are happening. One thing that is just weird and distracting is that Bruce Boxleitner tends to smile at the end of a lot of his lines, which just seems really odd to me.
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