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The Next Generation All Good Things come to an end...but not here.

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Old September 19 2013, 12:57 AM   #1
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Seasons 1 & 2.

I am working my way through all of TNG on DVD (after watching TOS) and I know some complain that the first two seasons are not the best. But I have found that they really are not that bad and do not deserve the bad rap they often get. I have found many episodes that I really enjoy.
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Old September 19 2013, 02:30 AM   #2
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Re: Seasons 1 & 2.

I don't think they're terrible...it's just that in Season 3, the show really hits its stride. Season 2 in particular has a lot of good stuff. Season 1 can be pretty spotty.
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Old September 19 2013, 02:47 AM   #3
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Re: Seasons 1 & 2.

It's really season 1 that's bad. I can only think of a handful of episodes in that season I really like. The worst thing I can say about season 2 is that it's not as good as seasons 3-5, but it did have a lot of gems in it.
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Old September 19 2013, 02:55 AM   #4
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Re: Seasons 1 & 2.

I prefer the feel of the early seasons to the later ones, if not the individual stories.
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Old September 19 2013, 03:27 AM   #5
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Re: Seasons 1 & 2.

Hober Mallow wrote: View Post
I prefer the feel of the early seasons to the later ones, if not the individual stories.
I feel the same way, particularly in the furnishings of the ship, alot of which dissapered after season 2, and the music, which was much more "melodic" than later on.

And, to be honest, alot of the episodes weren't THAT bad.

I still wish that we hadn't lost Tasha Yar, despite what that did for Worf. And, I'm still glad we lost Pulaski and got Crusher back though.
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Old September 19 2013, 04:05 AM   #6
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Re: Seasons 1 & 2.

Season 1 and 2 have some good episodes here and there, especially season 2. And although I think the later seasons were much better, I liked how in seasons 1-2 they stuck to the 'One ship alone exploring deep space' theme of the original.

The problem with season 1 was they basically had really stupid premises, they were overly committed to making Wesley the wonderkid, and they had a really one dimensional approach to characterization in general, making all the aliens seem like idiots and most of the cast seem ancillary.

(And the set designers liked dry ice way too much).

They were basically still trying to be TOS only had no idea what worked about TOS.
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Old September 19 2013, 04:09 AM   #7
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Re: Seasons 1 & 2.

I consider seasons one and two of TNG the best of all Modern Trek (1987-2005).
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Old September 19 2013, 12:37 PM   #8
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Re: Seasons 1 & 2.

JirinPanthosa wrote: View Post
Season 1 and 2 have some good episodes here and there, especially season 2. And although I think the later seasons were much better, I liked how in seasons 1-2 they stuck to the 'One ship alone exploring deep space' theme of the original.

The problem with season 1 was they basically had really stupid premises, they were overly committed to making Wesley the wonderkid, and they had a really one dimensional approach to characterization in general, making all the aliens seem like idiots and most of the cast seem ancillary.

(And the set designers liked dry ice way too much).

They were basically still trying to be TOS only had no idea what worked about TOS.
As a big fan of TOS season 1 does really feel like TOS in many ways. I noticed that most in the set of the planets they visited.
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Old September 19 2013, 12:54 PM   #9
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Re: Seasons 1 & 2.

I'm rewatching them as well and I was surprised that season 1 and 2 weren't as bad as I remembered them, particularly season 2. Now they had their share of stinkers, but for the most part, the seasons were pretty good.
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Old September 19 2013, 01:22 PM   #10
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Re: Seasons 1 & 2.

When I watch seasons 1 and 2 I enjoy them, but that's because I know which episodes to skip.

I don't have to sit through Naked Now, Code of Honor, Haven, Lonely Among Us, We'll Always Have Paris, Justice...
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Old September 19 2013, 02:03 PM   #11
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When I watch seasons 1 and 2 I enjoy them, but that's because I know which episodes to skip.

I don't have to sit through Naked Now, Code of Honor, Haven, Lonely Among Us, We'll Always Have Paris, Justice...
But We'll Always Have Paris is one of the best s1 eps I like that one.
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Old September 19 2013, 02:11 PM   #12
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JirinPanthosa wrote: View Post

I don't have to sit through Naked Now, Code of Honor, Haven, Lonely Among Us, We'll Always Have Paris, Justice...
I like all of those except Code of Honor.
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Old September 19 2013, 05:55 PM   #13
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Re: Seasons 1 & 2.

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I don't have to sit through Naked Now, Code of Honor, Haven, Lonely Among Us, We'll Always Have Paris, Justice...
I like all of those except Code of Honor.

Code of Honor is like a bad TOS episode. Oh, and I do like the episode "Justice." It is strange but I do like it.
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Old September 19 2013, 08:52 PM   #14
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Re: Seasons 1 & 2.

I know this is such a minor thing, but I wonder if the crew had the Season 3 and beyond uniforms in Seasons 1 and 2, if those seasons would have been better. There are some classic episodes in both those seasons, worthy to be called some of the best that TNG had to offer.
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Old September 19 2013, 11:11 PM   #15
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Re: Seasons 1 & 2.

I've been working through seasons one and two here recently myself - while season one has some major clunkers, season two for the most part is really quite good. While I like Diana Muldaur's Pulaski, I do find myself missing Beverly.

One of the biggest things that stands out in seasons one and two as well to me is the lighting. I think they used a lot more amber gels, IIRC.
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