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Old September 17 2013, 10:20 PM   #271
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Re: Mad Men season 6 (spoilers)

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Jeezzzzz .... milk the cash cow till it bleeds ...
It may be a budget issue for AMC as well. Spreading the cost for an ending show over two years allowing more to be spent on new products.
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Old September 17 2013, 10:35 PM   #272
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I really like Mad Men, but I'm not really crazy about this idea.
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Old September 17 2013, 10:56 PM   #273
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I think they should be cautious about this kind of thing. If you want fans to remain enthusiastic about your product, you have to actually deliver that product. Seems like TPTB at Mad Men are operating under the assumption that "absence make the heart grow fonder." Maybe they should pay more attention to another saying: "Out of sight, out of mind."
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Old September 18 2013, 09:49 PM   #274
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As long as it's planned in two parts, and not just arbitrarily split into two halves with an interminable hiatus between them, I don't mind. This seems to be the case, so, okay.

Of course, I'd rather have it all now, but this has always been a series that requires a bit of patience.

The only downside is the inevitable home video release, in which I will end up paying double what I did for the previous seasons (well, of the first four I own so far, anyway), but for only one extra episode of content.
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Old September 18 2013, 11:22 PM   #275
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Man, I hope they don't split the Season 7 video release into two parts. That would be an unconscientionable cash grab.
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Old September 18 2013, 11:26 PM   #276
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Taken from NYT article:

The show’s creator, Matthew Weiner, will shoot all the episodes in one production cycle, so in effect, AMC will simply be storing away the last seven episodes for a year.
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/09/18/bu...s.html?hp&_r=0

So yeah, this is nothing but a cash grab by AMC.
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Old September 18 2013, 11:26 PM   #277
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Those in charge split the home video releases for the split seasons of Breaking Bad, Battlestar Galactica, Stargate Universe, and The Sopranos. I rather doubt this will be different, especially since, after a year hiatus, the first half of the season on home video will be used to promote the second half of the season on television.
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Old September 18 2013, 11:29 PM   #278
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So yeah, this is nothing but a cash grab by AMC.
The article also quotes Weiner as saying:

We plan to take advantage of this chance to have a more elaborate story told in two parts, which can resonate a little bit longer in the minds of our audience.
There's economic and scheduling reasons to film everything at once. That, in and of itself, doesn't really speak to the motives of AMC (which strikes me less as an effort to make more money, than an effort to heighten the network's profile by keeping new episodes of Mad Men in the air for another two years rather than one).
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Old September 18 2013, 11:39 PM   #279
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AMC also split the final season of Breaking Bad. This network seems desperate to extend their hit shows as long as possible, the only reason that we are getting spinoffs of Breaking Bad and The Walking Dead.

But I see the network falling hard as soon as their three big hit shows end. AMC's bad reputation for kicking their show runners to the curb is starting to catch up with them. Who wants to work for people like that?
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Old September 18 2013, 11:52 PM   #280
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Their treatment of talent will probably continue to be a problem -- I know Bryan Cranston had a show he wanted to do at AMC, but the network balked, saying they were more interested in doing shows with broader appeal, like The Walking Dead -- but their bigger problem has been that nothing they've done lately has made waves like their early successes in scripted drama (in this cycle of scripted shows on AMC, anyway).

Not unlike Showtime before it, there was a brief period when people were talking about AMC as a successor to HBO. Now their biggest hit is a horror show, and they have gotten into reality programming and talk shows.
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Old September 20 2013, 01:04 AM   #281
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Matt Weiner was always dead-set on Mad Men ending after seven seasons. At least dead-set since 2011.

AMC, not wanting to lose Mad Men right after Breaking Bad would want Mad Men to run longer. Matt Weiner's intentions be damned.

Splitting the season in two seems like a compromise. The only solution "equally offensive to all" to quote Jim Cutler. Except it's equally beneficial if Matt Weiner can make it work as two separate but complimentary halves.

... but then there's what Jonas Grumby said, people could think, "Out of sight, out of mind."

I don't know. Mad Men seasons are always a slow burn. This one would have to be structured differently. A slow S7 pt. 1 would kill interest in S7 pt. 2 for most people.

I'm not sure how Breaking Bad seasons are structured because I've never actually seen the series but just because it worked for them, doesn't necessarily mean it'll work for Mad Men. Not unless Matt Weiner really writes it so it's meant to be split.

I'm still not sure "The Doorway" needed to be two hours. Matt Weiner said that premiere would be structured like a movie and I thought they pulled it off much better with "A Little Kiss".

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Old September 20 2013, 08:50 AM   #282
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I'm kinda getting tired of these TINY half seasons - I mean really... when you have a series that has short seasons to begin with and then they cut them in half. I can understand them wanting to milk it for what it's worth - but really.. it's just going to make the series end on a whimper instead of a bang - unless the finale is really spectacular
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Old September 20 2013, 09:12 PM   #283
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Matt Weiner was always dead-set on Mad Men ending after seven seasons. At least dead-set since 2011.

AMC, not wanting to lose Mad Men right after Breaking Bad would want Mad Men to run longer. Matt Weiner's intentions be damned.

Splitting the season in two seems like a compromise. The only solution "equally offensive to all" to quote Jim Cutler. Except it's equally beneficial if Matt Weiner can make it work as two separate but complimentary halves.

... but then there's what Jonas Grumby said, people could think, "Out of sight, out of mind."

I don't know. Mad Men seasons are always a slow burn. This one would have to be structured differently. A slow S7 pt. 1 would kill interest in S7 pt. 2 for most people.
I doubt this would be the case. Mad Men started off kind of slow last season and roared to it's conclusion.

Weiner and his staff know they have 14 hours to end their story. They will likely end season 6 with some kind of a cliffhanger in order to help keep the more casual viewers' interest in season 7. The hard core fans will tune in for the conclusion no matter what -- well, unless season 6 is a total mess. I doubt that will be the case.
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Old September 21 2013, 12:39 AM   #284
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It's S7 part 1 and S7 part 2 not S6 and S7.

I'm not quite sure where we disagree.

If S7 is designed to be two halves and both halves can stand on their own, even if "The Beginning" and "The End of an Era" are companion pieces, then that's great, regardless of whether or not there's a cliff-hanger two bridge the two haves.

If S7 is structured like previous seasons and is just an overall story broken in half with a nine-month hiatus in-between, then not so great, regardless of if there's a cliff-hanger.

They're not quite the same thing. It sounds like it's going to be the former. I'm just saying I hope it doesn't turn out to be the latter.
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Old September 21 2013, 02:47 PM   #285
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AMC also split the final season of Breaking Bad. This network seems desperate to extend their hit shows as long as possible, the only reason that we are getting spinoffs of Breaking Bad and The Walking Dead...
They are in trouble. They had, basically, three hit shows.

One of the their hit shows (BB) is going to end in a matter of days. The other (MM) has only one season left. The third (WD) is still going but one hit series doesn't a network make.

Meanwhile, their other attempts have all been misfires.

The Killing started strong but fell apart with the bait and switch at the end of season one. Hell on Wheels is a middling hit at best and not the kind of "water cooler" TV they built their rep on. Everything else they've put out has been even less successful.

So they;re going to milk MM and TWD for as long as they can in the hopes they can recapture lightning in a bottle with another couple of hit shows.

Whether they can do that given how stingy they are with their talent remains to be seen.
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