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View Poll Results: Rate The Crimson Shadow.
Outstanding 65 67.01%
Above Average 26 26.80%
Average 4 4.12%
Below Average 2 2.06%
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Old September 18 2013, 11:07 PM   #16
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Re: TF: The Crimson Shadow by Una McCormack

It's pretty bad, yeah, the ship just isn't integrated well into the scene at all.
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Old September 18 2013, 11:10 PM   #17
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The online image doesn't show everything, as there is some more detail in the background, but it doesn't help.
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Old September 18 2013, 11:12 PM   #18
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Re: TF: The Crimson Shadow by Una McCormack Review Thread (Spoilers!)

It does look a bit like a photoshop crime. Like someone took a wallpaper sized star background, and then squished it together to fit the book's confines.

Can't wait to see what the cross cult cover will be though!

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Old September 20 2013, 02:16 AM   #19
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Old September 20 2013, 08:48 AM   #20
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Re: TF: The Crimson Shadow by Una McCormack - Review Thread (Spoilers!

^You know, being a thread discussing the new book with spoilers in the title, placing things, especially things that aren't spoilerish under spoiler tags is pretty redundant.

Yes you may get the odd person complaining you've ruined the book and you shouldn't post spoilers uncoded in here, but if they haven't read the book and don't want to be spoiled, they shouldn't really be in here!
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Old September 20 2013, 07:14 PM   #21
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Re: TF: The Crimson Shadow by Una McCormack - Review Thread (Spoilers!

No one has gotten the kindle version yet?
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Old September 20 2013, 07:41 PM   #22
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Re: TF: The Crimson Shadow by Una McCormack - Review Thread (Spoilers!

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^You know, being a thread discussing the new book with spoilers in the title, placing things, especially things that aren't spoilerish under spoiler tags is pretty redundant.

Yes you may get the odd person complaining you've ruined the book and you shouldn't post spoilers uncoded in here, but if they haven't read the book and don't want to be spoiled, they shouldn't really be in here!
Please stop trying to change things. In threads about new books, it's the norm to put spoilers in spoiler tags no matter that the thread title does say (Spoilers!). It's been done that way for a long time and if you somehow manage to change that, you'll find more people leaving or not participating in the new book threads. So just leave well enough alone.
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Old September 20 2013, 07:43 PM   #23
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No one has gotten the kindle version yet?
Even better yet, nobody has gotten the ePub version.

The eBooks come out on the release date which is the last Tuesday of the month. I'm not sure the release schedule for eBook only Trek books. The pBooks are staggered.
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Old September 20 2013, 08:00 PM   #24
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Re: TF: The Crimson Shadow by Una McCormack - Review Thread (Spoilers!

Looking forward to it, tho the cover looks pretty bleh.
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Old September 20 2013, 08:18 PM   #25
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Looking forward to it, tho the cover looks pretty bleh.
I'm wondering what Cross Cult's cover will look like.
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Old September 20 2013, 10:07 PM   #26
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Re: TF: The Crimson Shadow by Una McCormack - Review Thread (Spoilers!

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^You know, being a thread discussing the new book with spoilers in the title, placing things, especially things that aren't spoilerish under spoiler tags is pretty redundant.

Yes you may get the odd person complaining you've ruined the book and you shouldn't post spoilers uncoded in here, but if they haven't read the book and don't want to be spoiled, they shouldn't really be in here!
Please stop trying to change things. In threads about new books, it's the norm to put spoilers in spoiler tags no matter that the thread title does say (Spoilers!). It's been done that way for a long time and if you somehow manage to change that, you'll find more people leaving or not participating in the new book threads. So just leave well enough alone.
If I remember correctly you were told in another thread by a moderator to stop telling people what to do. I want to read in this thread about The Crimson Shadow. Not another thread hijacked by spoiler discussion. We have another thread for that.
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Old September 20 2013, 11:06 PM   #27
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Re: TF: The Crimson Shadow by Una McCormack - Review Thread (Spoilers!

FWIW, when I put "Spoilers!" in those thread titles (which I didn't come up with, but adopted from earlier established practice) it's with the understanding that the purpose of the thread is to post reviews, and I think trying to do an effective review frequently calls for referencing and disclosing plot details. At the same time I think it's nice practice to be a little cautious with giving away major plot relevations before the street date or in the early days of a publication.
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Old September 21 2013, 11:05 PM   #28
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It depends on what this thread is really. Is it a book review thread? Then spoilers should be hidden as review shouldn't ruin the book for other people. If it is a thread for the discussion of plot points and general on going storylines then spoilers should be expected.

The title says review thread. That means to me, cover up spoilers, people come here to read reviews of the book, not a storyline breakdown, just like film critics don't tend to give away spoilers in movies.

Maybe there should be a thread for 'The Fall' storyline discussion.
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Old September 21 2013, 11:11 PM   #29
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It's a book review thread with a "Spoilers!" warning, that should more or less set your expectations for what the reviews are allowed to do .

And I think there's a wide range between spoiler-free reviews and "storyline breakdowns". The kind of review I like reading most is a review that discusses a novel's story in a meaningful way, ponders what it has to say and how it stands in relation to other things, real or not - and while that usually necessitates spoilers, it's a far cry from a mere plot summary.

My understanding is that in the past, there were often two review threads opened, one with a spoiler warning and one without. The spoiler-free ones seem to have died away at some point - presumably because the fragmentation was undesirable and folks found the spoiler-free format too stifling. Remember also that discussion is the point of a discussion board, posting isn't a one-way street so it's not just about the reviews but also about the constraints for the dialog - posting a spoiler-free review is one thing, disagreeing with it without referencing plot details to build an argument is often harder. So while of course it's possible that the audience and preferences have shifted now, it also seems possible we're repeating a conversation that has already run its course.

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Old September 21 2013, 11:28 PM   #30
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The title says review thread.
The title also says 'spoilers'.

I mean, Jesus, is this becoming a thing where people walk into a thread clearly marked for spoilers and insist that everyone tag the spoilers? If you don't want to be spoiled, don't go into a thread marked 'spoilers'!
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