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Old September 16 2013, 08:47 AM   #46
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Re: Favourite Warp Effect...

It's nice, but this is just so damned sweet:

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Old September 16 2013, 12:54 PM   #47
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Re: Favourite Warp Effect...

I agree, there's a lot of things in JJ-Trek I don't like, but the warp effect is not one of them. Strrretch...BOOM!!! gone. Outstanding!
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Old September 16 2013, 06:21 PM   #48
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Re: Favourite Warp Effect...

I like it but it looks a bit too cartoony for me, preferred what they did in 09, I can see what they were trying to achieve in STID but the blue streaks don't seem quite right perspective-wise either, my favorite still remains the 1st warp in TWOK.
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Old September 16 2013, 06:48 PM   #49
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Re: Favourite Warp Effect...

The warp effect, both going to- and being in-, in JJTrek are powerfull and strong. During both movies you get a sense that even though warpdrive is common, it is by no means safe. It's dangerous and things can go wrong pretty damned fast. I love that.
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Old September 16 2013, 08:54 PM   #50
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Re: Favourite Warp Effect...

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It's nice, but this is just so damned sweet:

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The warp effect, both going to- and being in-, in JJTrek are powerfull and strong. During both movies you get a sense that even though warpdrive is common, it is by no means safe. It's dangerous and things can go wrong pretty damned fast. I love that.
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Old September 16 2013, 09:52 PM   #51
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Re: Favourite Warp Effect...

Smellmet wrote: View Post
I like it but it looks a bit too cartoony for me, preferred what they did in 09, I can see what they were trying to achieve in STID but the blue streaks don't seem quite right perspective-wise either, my favorite still remains the 1st warp in TWOK.
You think this:


Is more like a cartoon than this:


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Srsly?
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Old September 16 2013, 10:42 PM   #52
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Re: Favourite Warp Effect...

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Not my favorite, but I wonder what a Dominion War-era fleet would look like warping altogether like that.

Also, how many epileptic seizures will we get?
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Old September 17 2013, 08:40 AM   #53
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Re: Favourite Warp Effect...

CorporalClegg wrote: View Post
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I like it but it looks a bit too cartoony for me, preferred what they did in 09, I can see what they were trying to achieve in STID but the blue streaks don't seem quite right perspective-wise either, my favorite still remains the 1st warp in TWOK.
You think this:


Is more like a cartoon than this:


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Srsly?
Read my post - I said the first warp in TWOK not this one which is from TMP
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Old September 17 2013, 01:45 PM   #54
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Re: Favourite Warp Effect...

CorporalClegg wrote: View Post
You think this:


Is more like a cartoon than this:


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Yes.
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Old September 17 2013, 09:39 PM   #55
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Re: Favourite Warp Effect...

Abram's warp effect is raw-looking.

TOS's (from a 2000's view) looks a little cheesy and over done.

The circular light streams are too perfect and the light sequence looks too much like a laser light show--it doesn't look like what you think a realistic warp field might look like.

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Old September 17 2013, 11:23 PM   #56
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Re: Favourite Warp Effect...

I don't know. It's all personal taste, of course. But I just think the Abrams one looks very cartoonish.

Plus, I like the thought that went into the TMP one, where you have one effect as the ship enters warp and another as it reaches its desired speed. It's as though we're seeing the perspective from the outside as the ship enters warp, and then seeing the perspective from inside the warp bubble as it finishes its transition into warp.
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Old September 18 2013, 01:58 AM   #57
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Re: Favourite Warp Effect...

I'm actually pretty critical of NuTrek, but one of the things I found pretty cool was the warp effect and how simple they kept it.

It looks a little raw and gritty and kind of 'realistic'.

If anything, this makes me really curious about what going into warp would actually look like.

There are a lot of natural optical illusions that look almost designed or staged, so who knows?
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Old September 18 2013, 02:21 AM   #58
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Re: Favourite Warp Effect...

CoveTom wrote: View Post
CorporalClegg wrote: View Post
You think this:


Is more like a cartoon than this:


?

Srsly?
Yes.
Hell yes!

The streak is actually coming off the ship itself, real light sources (the windows), not a hand or computer drawn cartoon. You can take exception to the filter used for the starbow (warp entry) if you like, but there's no cartoon aspect to that ship in motion at all.
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Old September 18 2013, 02:26 AM   #59
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Re: Favourite Warp Effect...

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Abram's warp effect is raw-looking.

TOS's (from a 2000's view) looks a little cheesy and over done.

The circular light streams are too perfect and the light sequence looks too much like a laser light show--it doesn't look like what you think a realistic warp field might look like.
You might want to dig through old issues of ENTERPRISE INCIDENTS magazine. There are a couple that have concept art by the original (fired) VFX team on TMP. Their concept for the warp effect involved a sustained ripple between the inboard grills of the two nacelles, plus a sort of bubble around the ship that manifested primarily as a distortion of the star background.

It sounded both complex and subtle, and would have required shooting two differently sized Enterprises (one of them a black miniature with fiber optics strung between the engines) lined up in perfect synch to get the inboard effect to matte itself as the ship moved through the shot, but if they'd pulled it off it might have been awesome.
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Old September 18 2013, 04:23 AM   #60
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it doesn't look like what you think a realistic warp field might look like.
For some reason, this sentence just blows my mind!
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